Some Minority Chances of Acceptance to Medical School Almost 10 Times Higher Than White/Asian
Mark J. Perry is a professor of economics and finance in the School of Management at the Flint campus of the University of Michigan. This is from his site: Carpe Diem
Data are now available from the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) on acceptance rates at medical schools for all students (data here) and acceptance rates for minority students (Hispanic, Black or Native American, data here), by MCAT and GPA, for the years 2007-2009 aggregated. From those data, I was able to create the table above for the acceptance rates for non-minorities (I'm assuming white and Asian), and compare to the acceptance rates for minorities, for those applicants with an MCAT score of 24-26 and a GPA between 3.00 and 3.19. In the past, the AAMC used to list whites, Asians, blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans separately, but it now only provides data for two categories: all applicants and minorities, so I had to do the calculation myself to determine the non-minority acceptance rate.
Perhaps the AAMC wishes to make the comparisons of acceptance rates by ethic groups harder, because the results above are pretty dramatic, and maybe this is what it is trying to hide? This is just one example of many: for those applicants to medical school with an MCAT of 24-26 and GPA of 3.00-3.19, fewer than one out of 20 non-minorities will be accepted, while almost one out of two minorities will be admitted. In other words, some minority applicants have almost a ten time greater chance of being accepted to medical school than their non-minority counterparts with the exact same credentials. (Source)
So, basically what the AAMC is saying is if you are White or Asian and you can't score any higher than 26 on your MCAT or maintain a GPA above 3.19 then you are not intelligent enough to gain entry. However, if you are Black or Native American and you score between 24-26 -- well, what more can we expect from you as you are clearly
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Read chapter 7 on affirmative action in Erik Rush's new book. You can read most of chapter 7 for free on Amazon, but buy the book because you will want to read all of it.
The percentage means nothing. Percentage of how many is the question??? Spare me this foolishness, I know what I see and it isn't 46% of black doctors. Wonder why such a "ridiculous" policy was put in place anyway?? Wonder what the percentage was before?? Probably -10%. Pardon me if I not moved.
Thank you Missrook.
The self-hatred of these black conservatives is a sad thing to behold.
You know, you racism chaser are so disappointing.
It's quite disheartening that neither of you can offer any substantive opposition to this article ideologically or statistically.
If you really had "love" for "yourselves" and faith in the intellectual capacity of black folks then you would require that the establishment give you "special" attention. When are you going to be ready to get off of the "short yellow bus"?
I had to re-read this twice and I can see your points, now however sadly it is true, Affirmative Action has hindered blacks more than help.
Now, with that said, I think it goes back to the fail social policies of the 50's and 60's. It does not mean that black doctors are incompetent to do the job. They still have to hit those books. Let's not be so hard.
anon2
You're the one chasing racism, trying to prove affirmative action is wrong, by taking stats out of context to prove a point.
Like @missrook says:
46% of doctors aren't black, hispanic, and native American combined. In fact only 6% of practicing doctors come from these groups combined.
You presented this stat as if 46% of smarter whites are being denied education because of dumber blacks. If anything the stat is saying that 3% (or 46% out of 6% representation)of the applicants that are minorities in these group, have lower test scores and/or GPA than their white or Asian counterparts. When you break it down the discrepancy is minuscule.
Secondly this combines two different stats, and doesn't break it down by percentage by MCAT vs GPA.
I bet you those with lower GPA's scored exceptionally well on MCAT, and those with exceptional GPA's scored lower than what their grades reflect they are capable of. I also bet, whites
make up the majority of lower GPAs and test scores, than the Asians they're grouped in that category.
Before labeling the left as race chasers, make sure the shoe doesn't fit.
I hardly ever see you post anything positive about black people, and that is scary. It's always attack attack attack. I see exceptional blacks, trying to make a difference in this world everyday. #justsaying
Please don't get me started on special treatment, as if white men haven't and aren't receiving special treatment everyday. If you're going to get rid of special treatment, start with legacy and athletes first.
MrsGrapevine~
Regarding the study there are grids for GPA and grids for MCAT scores and the author speaks to a very specific group within those grids-- those with an MCAT of 24-26 and GPA of 3.00-3.19. If you look at those within that range you will find that blacks are accepted 10 times more often.
Let me be clear, I'm not attacking black people! I'm attacking "racism chasing" black people. They make me ill. Unless or until we get honest about affirmative action our plight in America will not improve. Affirmative action is a double-edged sword. For those who feel that it is necessary (although, this study proves that it's working)how can we expect respect when the standards are lowered for us.
That's soft bigotry and I just to see how you can't see that.
You say that I don't post anything positive about black people, but I don't post anything positive about white people either. This blog is an opinion an commentary forum. I don't post about events....check out my facebook if you want to see positivity as it pertains to black folks. My friends are getting it done, they are awesome and the one thing they have in common is that they aren't racism chasers-- begging white folks to care about them. They don't whine and complain about white folks all the damn time.
Hey, CBW!! I miss you!!
I miss you too Attymom!!!! Call a Sistah...lol. I've left you umpteen messages Chickadee.
CBW: Glad to see that someone took out her time to post. Before you knew it Steve was back on the attack.
[quote]The self-hatred of these black conservatives is a sad thing to behold.[/quote]
CBW - I don't think that this is a case of "Racism Chasing".
This is a case of "Assumed Black Inferiority" where those who demand "equality" don't see the contradiction in SEEKING IT via transacting upon their inferiority.
The proper way to consider Affirmative Action is to look at the FAR, FAR, FAR greater number of Black Children who attend public schools run by "favorable people" and who won't be applying to professional school or undergrad because they weren't sufficiently prepared (parents included).
What better way for Steve and the "Perpetual Excusers" to find a way to take heat off of their backs for the failure of the public schools by putting the hook upon the medical schools and law schools to do Affirmative Action admissions. They feel more comfortable PROTESTING against these schools than against their Permanent Friends running the public schools.
CBW:
Here is some illumination on your Fredrick Douglass quote:
http://functionalculture.blogspot.com/2010/07/fredrick-douglass.html
Constructive Feedback~ You wrote
"This is a case of "Assumed Black Inferiority" where those who demand "equality" don't see the contradiction in SEEKING IT via transacting upon their inferiority.
I keep coming back to the same word to describe you....BRILLIANT!!! I just can't put it any other way...BRILLIANT!!! You said in one sentence what I have been trying to say for 20 years and couldn't succinctly express it.
Notice that I've added your "illumination" as it pertains to the Frederick Douglass quote on the side bar.
"I hardly ever see you post anything positive about black people, and that is scary. It's always attack attack attack. I see exceptional blacks, trying to make a difference in this world everyday. #justsaying"
And you never will read anything positive about black folks on a black conservative blog.
They hate being black, they hate black people and they function as grinning lapdogs for white racists.
"Please don't get me started on special treatment, as if white men haven't and aren't receiving special treatment everyday."
Now don't go getting CBW all bent out of shape with facts Ms Grapevine.
She is in the service of her beloved Massa who can do no wrong in her eyes.
Uptown Steve~You are indeed an "Accuser of the Brethren". Please be advised that I am not even slightly "bent out of shape" by either YOU, Misrook, or MrsGrapevine.
In the words of Mr.T..."I pity the fool(s). Just remember these two things:
(1)Reading is fundamental.But reading comprehension is golden.
(2)Hosea 4:6 says: "My people perish for lack of knowledge
Even if you don't recognize the Bible as the Word of God, I ask you to appreciate then the metaphor of "my people" as black people and "knowledge" as truth. Stand on truth UTS! Instead of wasting your time disparaging me -- prove me wrong.
[quote]"I hardly ever see you post anything positive about black people, and that is scary. It's always attack attack attack. I see exceptional blacks, trying to make a difference in this world everyday.[/quote]
MrsGrapevine:
Can we both agree that it is more important that Black Progressives and Black Conservators present a set of messages that MODELS the real world truth in good and bad than what we see:
* People who are insatiably negative against their ideological adversaries where they keep moving the goal posts so they will never achieve a score
* People who not only lower the bar for their favored leaders, they also serve as prime cheerleaders and defenders against critical inspection
You see Miss Grapevine - we need to start our inspection from the INSIDE OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, looking at the street level view regarding our condition. The thing that bothers WhiteBowieSteve is that he does not wish to have the Black Progressive accept the role of the ESTABLISHMENT and thus be held accountable for the chaos in Detroit, Chicago, Trenton, Philly and so many other places where our community's potential is being squandered.
Have YOU ever demanded that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or Barack Obama level with you and articulate some FAILURES that the Progressive-Fundamentalists have triggered per their take over of where our people living in our highest concentrations?
Do you not see that the twin brother of charging CBW as being NEGATIVE out of synch with the reality of Black America is the far more popular offense of telling our people that Detroit is making progress - we just need to STAY UNITED and not ask questions because in disunity the ENEMY wins.
Miss Grapvine:
MY ENEMY is BIGOTRY AND IGNORANCE.
Neither of which has a RACE but instead they are spirits.
I REFUSE to tell some OPERATIVE IN BLACK FACE that he is doing a GOOD JOB just because he is Black and we need to be POSITIVE with our own people.
This is exactly what the ESTABLISHMENT who seeks POWER but not ACCOUNTABILITY want you to believe.
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