Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Do You Love Obama More Than You Love America's Sovereignty?

Do you think that is a preposterous question? If this question were posed a few short months ago, I would have thought so -- but no more. What's worse is that unless one avails themselves to alternative media sources they would have no idea that "We the People" of the United States of America are in great danger of surrendering our sovereignty to an international entity. The warm and fuzzy phrase which is hallowed throughout the halls of academia and echoed during convocation ceremonies routinely of "global citizenship" is about to become a reality for the United States of America. As much as it pains me to go all "Alex Jones" on you this is true. In December of 2009 at the United Nations Climate Summit in Copenhagen, there is a very strong probability that President Obama will sign a treaty that will trump the powers of the US Constitution, if the signed treaty is ratified by the Senate.

Lord Christopher Monckton, former policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher warned of the impending danger last week as he addressed the Free Market Institute at Bethel University...

Did you catch that? He said:

"I have read that treaty. And what it says is this: That a world government is going to be created. The word "government" actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to countries, in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, "a climate debt," because we have been burning CO2 and they haven't and we've been screwing up the climate. We haven't been screwing up the climate, but that's the line. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government is "enforcement." How many of you think that the word "election" or "democracy" or "vote" or "ballot" occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right! It doesn't appear once. So at last the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement and took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year because they'd captured it. Now the apotheosis is at hand.They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He's going to sign. He'll sign anything. He's a Nobel peace laureate. Of course he'll sign it!
So, thank you, You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your prosperity away forever -- and neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect would have any power whatsoever to take it back again. That is how serious it is." (emphasis added)

The entire speech can be viewed here and the accompanying power point presentation can be viewed here

I was accused a few threads ago of sounding like a "looney right wing kook" for referring to President Obama's affinity for all things socialist . I can not fathom how Obama supporters can't see the obvious. But, it's gravely important that they now take off the blinders and take a stand against this diabolical agenda . Our very SOVEREIGNTY AS A NATION is imperiled. Our economic policies as well as our energy policies will be subordinated to what the world body at the United Nations says we can or cannot do.

So the questions du jour for Obama supporters and racism chasers (not necessarily the same) are -- Do you love Barack Obama more than you love America's sovereignty? Do you really want America to surrender it's economic prosperity to third world countries? Do you really believe that YOU owe a debt to poorer countries because you breathe? Right, the liberal lie is that CO2 (our very breath) creates green house gases which in turn cause global warming and millions are dying because of our greenhouse gas emission. If you think I'm distorting this inane liberal lie read for yourself:

"If we do not reach a deal over the next few months let us be in no doubt since once the damage from one checked emissions growth is done no retrospective global agreement in some future period can undo that choice. By then, it will be irretrievably too late. We should never allow ourselves to lose sight of the catastrophe we face if present warming trends continue. Ninety-eight percent of those dying and otherwise seriously affected live in the poorest countries and yet their countries account for only 8% of global emissions. This is the great injustice of climate change. Those being hit first and hardest by climate change are those who have done least to cause it." - Gordon Brown, Prime Minister United Kingdom

So according to the liberal liars the poor nations of the world are poor because of America's CO2 emissions. No. The truth is these nations are poor because of corruption, tyranny, socialism and the lack of wealth creation. The United Nation's wants to cut America down to size and our Nobel Peace Laureate POTUS is down for the cause.


ziggy said...

Thank you for putting this up. I heard this just yesterday. Kudos to this man for speaking up and making it plain.

Mr. Grey Ghost said...

We have to do everything possible to limit Barry to one term, the man's THAT dangerous.

Janelle said...

CBW, I stand with you. And keep talking.... this grandmother of seven sees a brighter future for this country if you keep on posting the news that it is ok to be conservative. Wonderful!

Anonymous said...

This is one of the reasons that the Constitution originally assigned the selection of senators to the state governments. If the Senators were answerable to the State Governments, they would be less likely to ratify treaties that are not in the best interests of the States.

James Shewmaker said...

I apologize for posting the comment of 8:20 anonymously, that was an accident.

Smile said...

Michael David Cobb Bowen quote: The Yamal Dataset was faulty. The hockey stick was a myth. The 'scientific consensus' was false.

Global Warming was based on twelve trees. Yes, 12 trees. Twelve bristlecone pines. Bristlecone pines were/are known to be a problem for this procedure. There's a very readable article on this over at Bishop Hill. A nice job of breaking things down to a level of understanding: http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2008/8/11/caspar-and-the-jesus-paper.html

Here's a few other articles on it, or sites dedicated to this issue. Some are quite complicated and authored by scientists. Truly worth a peek and some have a wonderful style of writing:

Climate Audit http://www.climateaudit.org/


Texas Scribbler http://texasscribbler.com/blog/2009/10/twelve_measly_trees.html

Random Jottings http://www.randomjottings.net/archives/004052.html

Robert said...

Get your change from a Coke machine, not from the White House.

Attorneymom said...

Thanks for the heads up on the Punkazz Aunt story:


cathiwim said...

I am so glad you have this site. I am bookmarking it! I know many black conservative women who will be interested to read your comments! I am so happy to see you speak up! :) Keep up the good work, and thanks for sharing this Youtube of Lord Monckton!

Joe Clyde said...

They were wrong. You are not looney.

Referencing Alex Jones. Really??

Is that the attack of the week.

He's a Racist.
He's Not American.
He's a Socialist.
He's part of the New World Order.

I'm waiting for when they say he is trying to make Soylent Green. Then I will be worried.

It's made of People.

Conservative Black Woman said...

OK JC~For the sake of argument...how would you feel about Lord Monckton's speech if it the POTUS was somebody other than Obama? Let's say "Dubya" was in a position to sign the treaty (no need to be defensive now) would America's sovereignty matter to you then?

Conservative Black Woman said...

Thanks Janelle & Cathiwim for your words of encouragement.

Joe Clyde said...

Dubya believes that there is already a one world party. He called it America.

He clearly stated this by him going at it alone in Iraq. He believe that America is the police force for the world, and treated America Lives as such.

But I guess that is ok. Because he called himself a conservative. It makes his one country world order ok, because they are against Affrimative Action. lol

Conservative Black Woman said...

JC~I guess you answered my question...

Clearly you are not a believer in American exceptionalism, clearly you don't value America's sovereignty, clearly you are in agreement with the "Banana Republics" of the world that America should be "cut down to size", clearly you have little or no allegiance to this county. However, I have one last question. Will you be satisfied if you literally become a "citizens of the world", and the United States is forced to pay our climate debt to third world countries after all of the wealthy's wealth has been re-distributed to all of the black and brown people of the globe. Will the US be less offensive to you then?

Joe Clyde said...

Actually I am extremely patriotic.

I don't believe America should run to every single country and act as Daddy. Like the Republicans do and have done.

I believe the borders should be closed along the Mexican AND Canadian border.

I am all for America First. So I do feel that US companies that outsource manufacturing, and labor should pay extra taxes.

China, India, and Other Countries are contributing to the Climate Debt also. But I am not concerned with the "look at them" polictics. LEADERS LEAD. Right. How can America point the finger at other countries, and have smog in LA.


I'm sorry. I never really understood the republican/conservative tactic that if you don't agree with their ideals then you hate America. lol.

I guess Jesus was born in Utah, and he only cares about White Christians who watch the 700 Club.

Republican, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Racist, and Pacifist of ever color. All Americans. All love America. All have different solutions.

I don't believe the body bags of the Americans Soldiers coming home have a Donkey or a Elephant on the America Flag.

Conservative Black Woman said...

JC~Initially I asked you how you felt about the loss of American sovereignty, instead of answering that question you chose to extols the failings (in your mind anyway) of Bush rather than respond. The only logical conclusion to be draw was the one I drew.

I absolutely do not believe that unless you agree with "conservatives" that you are unpatriotic. I pegged you as such based on your own words, however if you are then I stand corrected. It just seems to me that you should have answer the question from the jump rather than "Dubya" bashin', then there would have been not roque conclusions drawn on my end.

Conservative Black Woman said...

oops...meant to say there would have been no rogue conclusions drawn.

Thuyen Tran said...

"I don't believe the body bags of the Americans Soldiers coming home have a Donkey or a Elephant on the America Flag."

The average American soldier have disdain for liberals.

MrsGrapevine said...

@ Tran:

"The average American soldier have disdain for liberals."

But will lay down their life if their friend was a liberal...That sounds like disdain to me. Not!

If you would have said most soldiers are Republicans then I would have agreed, and kept my mouth closed. But the average soldier despise liberals or think they are unworthy, sounds framed. Considering many of their parents and relatives are liberals.

I do take offense when my liberal relatives are proudly serving their country tour after tour.

Smile said...

Do you love Obama more then those liberal relatives/friends who serve, tour after tour?

I believe that we should first support those who are required to do the hardest job of all. First, before anything else. I believe we should be most timely with that support, first and before anything else.

Waiting is not okay for any reason, not even for a gov't to get their act together. Not for any reason. I don't agree with Obama waiting, while they figure out politics. Bring them home post-haste, or send support. Our troops, along with their Mothers, Fathers, sisters, brothers, girlfriends, wives, their children, deserve this. Regardless of different ideology, whether we agree with the mission, they always deserve our first and best. We should do right by them whether we like it or not, as they must do by us, whether they like it or not.

We should all let their Commander In Chief know that we agree on this one thing. Arguing over them and making political points over them does nothing if we don't put our words into action by together insisting that our gov't take care of our nations finest whom they are now in charge of.

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JMK said...

“Dubya believes that there is already a one world party. He called it America.

"He clearly stated this by him going at it alone in Iraq...

“... But I guess that is ok. Because he called himself a conservative. It makes his one country world order ok, because they are against Affrimative Action. Lol” (Joe Clyde)
The U.S. England, Poland, Italy, the Ukraine, Spain, Greece, Japan, the UAE, isn’t quite “alone”...in fact, the ONLY nations who opposed the Iraqi invasion were France, Germany, Belgium, Russia and China.

ALL of those opposing nations put THEIR interests ahead of what was right...G W was guilty of (rightly from an American perspective) putting America’s interests ahead of all else.

But what does opposing segregation (segregated standards) have to do with any of that?

Actually G W was tepid on the segregation that is euphemistically called AA...even Clinton opposed it more.

G W Bush unfortunately and inanely made a BIG CHANGE from the Supply Side economic policies that began under Reagan, reverted back to Keynesianism briefly under Bush Sr, then roared back with the Gingrich-led Supply Side revolution that cut the federal budget for the first time in over half a century and delivered the lowest Misery Indexes since 1956!

Bush re-introduced Keynesian economic policy, ratcheting up federal spending and happily cooperating with the Pelosi-Reid Congress to add another $3.6 TRILLION to the National Debt over his last two years.

But he (1) didn't go it alone in Iraq, only a half dozen countries opposed that invasion and (2) ironically enough, didn't oppose segregated standards ENOUGH....he sought instead to avoid that issue as much as possible.

MrsGrapevine said...

@ Smile:

Nicely said except for the first part.

I haven't made one comment on this post because I read the document, and this guy starts off with three lies, but I'm really tired of arguing, so I will stay out of this.

I just couldn't let the comment go, that "most soldiers have disdain for for liberals."

I know why Obama is waiting or stalling, but I agree with you and Gates either move now, or bring them home. That's one thing I don't like about Obama, his tendency to over-analyze. Make a decision, and let's go!

Joe Clyde said...

'It just seems to me that you should have answer the question from the jump rather than "Dubya" bashin', then there would have been not roque conclusions drawn on my end."

"Let's say "Dubya" was in a position to sign the treaty (no need to be defensive now) would America's sovereignty matter to you then?

You introduced "Dubya" so that is why I talked about him.


@Thuyen Tran

"The average American soldier have disdain for liberals.

Is that what the Soliders that go on conservative blogs tell you??


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Conservative Black Woman said...

JC you asked TT~"Is that what the Soliders that go on conservative blogs tell you??

Yes....true Patriots are fighting for our freedom. They are disheartened and don't feel that America needs to be "transformed". Now those who enlisted for the "benefits" well....they tend to be more liberal than conservative and do not frequent this blog but I'm speaking about I know PERSONALLY.

Smile said...

Tran, please refrain from making divisive statements about our troops for talking points and for sake of argument. In that vein, it does no good and can even alienate some from doing right by them. It is most unwise. Please think about this and choose to leave them out of the slap fest.

Our political stance or our troops individual political stance has nothing to do with anything when we are talking policy.

I'll be blunt. The question of an individual member of the armed forces being more this or disdaining that is...I won't say what I think. Even if we see or hear a member of the armed forces speaking of such (as is their right and no other deserves to have an opinion and work that opinion out more then them) we should refrain from using it as a tool. It is like parents who divorce and put their kids in the middle. Ignore those kinds of questions, period.

How someone votes is a whole separate thing from the issue of honoring, taking care of, and having the back of those who (for whatever reason) serve in the military. Why, we don't even have to like them much as individuals. When they join, they give our gov't the right to own them. Words can be cheap. Lets make sure to support them in word and in deed.

I don't care for the politics played or the lack of honor and support for our troops. I'm not going to argue. I'm not trying to convince. I'm just stating my opinion.

I don't see the military get theirs first, most, and our best. But all is required of them and they've given their all plenty.

So, to try and tie this into the topic, lets just remember, whether we like 'em or not, they deserve our all and regardless of who is prez (special thanks to MGV for agreeing on this one thing especially) they come first. Loving someone doesn't mean you agree with them when they're wrong, imo.

Send our President a respectful little note to please send in support troops now or bring them all home now. No political wait game, but now.

Thuyen Tran said...

"Tran, please refrain from making divisive statements about our troops for talking points and for sake of argument. In that vein, it does no good and can even alienate some from doing right by them. It is most unwise. Please think about this and choose to leave them out of the slap fest."

I spoke from firsthand experience.

If I had shooting skills at all and good common sense back in the day, like more than 10 years ago, I would have been able to finish basic training at Ft Benning.

All I know is that when it was announced then that President Clinton was going to be impeached all the soldiers that spoke out, cheered loudly, to the approval of the commander of that batalion. That is all I needed to know.

Thuyen Tran said...

Otherwise, I apologize for speaking about the military and refrain from using it for talking points in like manner.

Smile said...

Dearest Tran, I understand. I hope that what I'm trying to explain is understood as well.

Your experience and opinion is valid and I appreciate, more then I can say.

ar said...

All roads lead to http://compleatpatriot.blogspot.com/.

While we bicker over fake gorebal warming and created depression, She sits in washington and you are hers; so says she.

71% lawyers. Nobility and Titles Act. Anyone holding such title is automatically striped of citizenship in the united states, yet we have judges lawyers, congressmen lawyers, senators lawyers; The hidden 13th amendment was to keep lawyers from being in goverment and as we see we are filthy with them.

This stuff is damn frightening to hear but it is happening right now. I'm tired of arguing petty bullshit with the major event of all time about to unfold and some just can't grasp it. That's fine but don't deny what you will not read for yourself. Scare yourself and READ THIS STUFF it's what you don't want to hear. I hate it. But, it's true.

You don't have to believe it... but at least read it. There's tons of other stuff Everywhere and it's catching on.

Stay out of the hate mode - it's called quick to repent and git yer friends with ya.

MrsGrapevine said...

@ ar:

I did notice that Obama declared Swine Flu a "National Emergency" which was one of the points in the article you made me read, I am on notice to see if everything else comes to fruition. I will say that does seems a little scary.

ar said...


Pandemic my foot. last year 40 thousand died from regular flu. this year, 1,000 have died from swine flu H1N1. Still scared? What joke this administration is. THEY'RE FIRED.

ar said...

State sovereignty at the state level - where you are.


Your representatives know nothing; unless you call or write daily. Make 'em earn the money you pay them, or fire them.