Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Nothing New Under The Sun...Ronald Reagan On Socialized Medicine

There is absolutely nothing new under the sun. The Statist, Socialist, Collectivist call them whatever you'd like have been trying to usurp the liberty this country provides for years. I keep stumbling upon more and more historical evidence to support this fact. Ronald Reagan delivered this speech in 1961 when he was still a private citizen decrying the dangers of socialized medicine. I don't know what is will take to convince these imbecilic Obama acolytes to look past their paranoia that people are coming against The Black Man and consider how the Obama Plan is disastrous. The effect of the "changes" he is implementing will linger long after his time in office.

I love the way he says "guvment".


Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program. There are many ways in which our government has invaded the free precincts of private citizens, method of earning a living; our government is in business to the extent of owning more than 19,000 businesses covering 47 different lines of activity. This amounts to 1/5th of the total industrial capacity of the United States. (Sort of like the Chrysler, GM take over last week)

But at the moment I would like to talk about another one because this threat is with us, and at the moment, more imminent.

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project, most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can't afford it. Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We have an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this. (Unfortunately, Mr. Reagan American are quite a bit stupider in 2009 than in 1961 and they don't let facts get in the way of their emotions)

So with the American people on record as not wanting socialized medicine, Congressman Ferrand introduced the Ferrand bill. This was the idea that all people of social security age, should be brought under a program of compulsory health insurance. This would not only be our senior citizens, this would be the dependents and those that are disabled, this would be young people if they are dependents of someone eligible for social security.

Now Congressman Ferrand, brought the program out on that idea out , on just for that particular group of people. But Congressman Ferrand was subscribing to this foot-in-the door philosophy, because he said, "If we can only break through and get our foot inside the door, then we can extend the program after that. Walter Ruth said, it’s no secret that the United Automobile Workers is officially on record of backing a program of national health insurance. And by national health insurance, he meant socialized medicine for every American. (Yep, that about sums up the unholy alliance of our Statist-in-Chief and the unions he is beholden to)

Now let us see what the socialist themselves have to say about it. They say once the Ferrand bill is passed this nation will be provided with a mechanism for socialized medicine capable of indefinite expansion in every direction until it includes the entire population. Now we can't say we haven't been warned. (Nope, we surely can't say that we haven't been, but again Mr. Reagan--Some folks are too invested in the success of Barack Obama and other are just too damn dumb to consider history...they are incapable of digesting information unless it's in 45 second sound byte form)

Now Congressman Ferrand is no longer a Congressman of the United States government. He has been replaced, not in the particular assignment, but in his backing of such a bill by Congressman King of California. It is presented in the idea of a great emergency that millions of our senior citizens are unable to provide needed medical care. But this ignores that fact that 127 million of our citizens, in just 10 years, have come under the protection of some form of privately owned medical or hospital insurance. (Yes, much like today's liberals would have you believe that people go without health care when in reality some people between the ages of 22-40 choose not to carry insurance because they are healthy, the poor are covered under medicaid and it's against the law for an emergency room to deny critical care due to lack of insurance. They tout this propaganda because the general populous accepts and recapitulates it.)

Now the advocates of this bill when you try to oppose it challenge you on an emotional basis and say,” What would you do?" "Throw these poor people out to die with no medical attention?"

That's ridiculous and of course no one is advocating it. As a matter of fact, in the last session of Congress a bill was adopted known as the Kerr/Mill bill. Now without even allowing this bill to be tried to see if it works, they have introduced this King bill, which is really the Ferrand bill.

What is the Kerr/Mills bill? It is the frank recognition of the medical need or problem of the senior citizens I have mentioned and it has provided from the federal government, money to the states and the local communities that can be used at the discretion of the states to help those people who need it.

Now what reason could the other people have for backing a bill which says we insist on compulsory health insurance for senior citizens on a basis of age alone regardless if they are worth millions of dollars, whether they have an income, whether they are protected by their own insurance, whether they have savings.

I think we can be excused for believing that as ex-congressman Ferrand said, this was simply an excuse to bring about what they wanted all the time; socialized medicine.

James Madison in 1788 speaking to the Virginia convention said, “since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” (Well of course, but again we are not working with extremely thoughtful people at this point in time.They have abandoned all sensibilty for the prospect of "Hope & Change" -- poor dopes)

They want to attach this bill to social security and they say here is a great insurance program; now instituted, now working.

Let's take a look at social security itself. Again, very few of us disagree with the original premise that there should be some form of savings that would keep destitution from following unemployment by reason of death, disability or old age. And to this end, social security was adopted, but it was never intended to supplant private savings, private insurance, pension programs of unions and industries. (Many Americans didn't get this memo)

Now in our country under our free enterprise system we have seen medicine reach the greatest heights that it has in any country in the world. Today, the relationship between patient and doctor in this country is something to be envied any place. The privacy, the care that is given to a person, the right to chose a doctor, the right to go from one doctor to another.

But let's also look from the other side. The freedom the doctor uses. A doctor would be reluctant to say this. Well, like you, I am only a patient, so I can say it in his behalf. A doctor begins to lose his freedom, it's like telling a lie. One leads to another. First you decide the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government, but then the doctors are equally divided geographically, so a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him he can't live in that town, they already have enough doctors. You have to go some place else. And from here it is only a short step to dictating where he will go. (Are you kidding me Mr. Reagan, who cares about RICH doctors losing their freedom?)

This is a freedom I wonder if any of us has a right to take from any human being. I know how I'd feel if you my fellow citizens, that to be an actor I had to be a government employee and work in a national theatre. Take it into your own occupation or that of your husband. All of us can see what happens once you establish the precedent that the government can determine a man's working place and his working methods, determine his employment. From here it is a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay and pretty soon your son won't decide when he's in school where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him where he will go to work and what he will do. (Established precedents? What's that? Who has the energy or inclination to find out? Not many, especially if they are liberal democratic drones)

In this country of ours, took place the greatest revolution that has ever taken place in the world's history; the only true revolution. Every other revolution just exchanged one set of rulers for another. But here, for the first time in all the thousands of years of man's relations to man, a little group of men, the founding fathers, for the first time, established the idea that you and I had within ourselves, the God given right and ability, to determine our own destiny. This freedom is built into our government with safeguards. We talk democracy today, and strangely, we let democracy begin to assume the aspect of majority rules all that is needed. The majority rule is a fine aspect of democracy provided there are guarantees written in to our government concerning the rights of the individual and of the minority. ("The minority"? Racist. How dare you say "minority" Mr. Reagan! It doesn't matter what else you say, Black folks will not hear it because you had the unadulterated gall to say "minority". Of course I'm being sarcastic but I know how black folks think as a matter of fact I have volumes of documentation entombed in the comment section of this site)

What can we do about this? Well, you and I can do a great deal. We can write to our congressmen and our senators. We can say right now that we want no further encroachment on these individual liberties and freedoms. And at the moment, the key issue is, we do not want socialized medicine.

In Washington today, 40 thousand letters, less than 100 per congressman are evidence of a trend in public thinking. Representative Hallock of Indiana has said, "When the American people wants" something from Congress, regardless of its political complexion, if they make their wants known, Congress does what the people want. So write, and if this man writes back to you and tells you that he too is for free enterprise, that we have these great services and so forth, that must be performed by government, don't let him get away with it. Show that you have not been convinced. Write a letter right back and tell him that you believe government economy and fiscal responsibility, that you know governments don't tax to get the moneys the need; governments will always find a need for the money they get and that you demand the continuation of our free enterprise system. You and I can do this. The only way we can do it is by writing to our congressmen even we believe that he is on our side to begin with. Write to strengthen his hand. Give him the ability to stand before his colleagues in Congress and say that he has heard from his constituents and this is what they want. Write those letters now and call your friends and them to write. If you don't, this program I promise you, will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow and behind it will come other government programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country until one day as Normal Thomas said we will wake to find that we have socialism, and if you don't do this and I don't do this, one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free. (Bingo! That time is now)


Left Coast Rebel said...

This is an incredible sound clip, thank you so much for posting this! Where did you find it? BTW I love your blog and take on things here.....take a peek at mine if you don't mind!

Anonymous said...

Ronald was equally right as Obama and Hillary are equally wrong.

Linda said...

This is a great post, CBW. I agree with LCR, this is an incredible sound clip. Of course, Mr. Reagan had the audacity to play the 'minority' card. Was he racist? I don't think so. He was right that we are waking up to a socialist country. That is NOT what the founding fathers wanted for America. Every man, woman and child has the right to pursue anything they want to pursue in our country, but I am afraid that that time is fast coming to an end. We are going to be so indebted to the programs that are being instituted, we will have to take the jobs the president presents to us. Wake up America!

We may be stuck with BO until 2012, but 2010 is coming up, and we have the chance to change the logistics of our congress and senate.

It was refreshing to hear the news today about Gitmo, and the problems with closing it. It was 90 to 5 that the prisoners can't be freed to our country, and no other country wants them either.

Zabeth said...

Truer words haven't ever been spoken.

Harbinjer said...

I'd never thought I would miss President Reagen this much as I do now. A man for his times and we did so well under his leadership, now we are dealing with obama and his immoral agenda. This guy adds nothing of value to the country, he is a parasite like his followers. We need to reign in this hybrid in 2010, lets get to work!

nacilbupera said...

Impressive, CBW! In addition to the "Tea Parties" this summer we need to revive Reagan's "Operation Coffee Cup". I think I'll take a teacup and and coffee cup with me to our TeaParty scheduled here in Provo for July 4th.
Keep up the outstanding blog!

uptownsteve said...

"("The minority"? Racist. How dare you say "minority" Mr. Reagan! It doesn't matter what else you say, Black folks will not hear it because you had the unadulterated gall to say "minority". Of course I'm being sarcastic but I know how black folks think as a matter of fact I have volumes of documentation entombed in the comment section of this site)"

This is really sad CBW.

You really think black folks are stupid don't you?

Or your "special" because you think like Massa.


uptownsteve said...

The REAL Reagan legacy?

100,000s of people killed in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Grenada, Guatemala, Angola, Mozambique, Afghanistan, and around the world as a direct result of his and his Administration's policies and agendas.

Tens of thousands of U.S. citizens who would still be alive today if it werent for the proactive (in)action of the Reagan administrations urban and AIDS policies.

Rings of Bush and Katrina, doesn't it?

This is a man who gave huge tax breaks to his rich friends while simultaneously blaming poor people for their own poverty. His deficit-causing, supply-side, trickle-down tax cuts were sold to the public with bullshit math. Together with a tremendous boost in military spending, Reagan's tax cuts were designed to make the government destitute - - necessitating cuts in government spending and thereby justifying the dismantling of social programs.

As a result, we saw the complete demonization of the poor. Reagan's COMPLETELY FICTIONAL creation of the Welfare Queen (lazy, single black women who were dependent on welfare for years, having more babies to collect easy money and get rich) was sold to the public as if it were true. It is a lie that has remained embedded in the public conscience, making it impossible in the last twenty years to get the government to help those in need. Reagan made selfishness and apathy seem normal.

Reagan ratted out his fellow Screen Actors Guild members to Un-American Committee and broke the PATCO air- traffickers strike. He bombed Libya, invaded Grenada, and armed the death squads in Nicaragua and El Salvador. He demonized women of color on welfare. Vilified people with AIDS. He sanctioned police terror against communities of color and waged a war against the Black Panthers.

F*ck Ronald Reagan.

Yeah, I said it.

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS~Seriously you prove my point as you are merely recapitulating the drivel espoused by "Queers for Economic Justice".....Unlike you I will post the link to the source of this idiotic literary bile

If I were not at work and time allowed I would decimate this ca-ca (that's code for BullS**T) line by line. But in the interest of time and since you (rather, queers for economic justice)are making these absurd assertions I'd say prove it. Prove to me that 100,000 of people were killed around the world as around the world as a direct result of his and his Administration's policies and agendas.I have to respond to your (rather Queers for Economic Justice) assertion that the "lazy welfare queen" was a mere fabrication of Ronald Reagan and sold to the world. What else would you call Linda Taylor...

"15 February 1976, New York Times, pg. 51:
"Welfare Queen" Becomes
Issue in Reagan Campaign
The Washington Star
WASHINGTON, Feb. 14 -- Few people realize it, but Linda Taylor, a 47-year-old Chcago welfare recipient, has become a major campaign issue in the New Hampshire Republican Presidential primary.

Former Gov. Ronald Reagan of California has referred to her at nearly every stop, using her as part of his "citizens' press conference" format.

"There's a woman in Chicago," the Republican candidate said recently to an audience in Gilford, N.H., during his free-swinging attack on welfare abuses. "She has 80 names, 30 addresses, 12 Social Security cards and is collecting veterans' benefits on four nonexisting deceased husbands."
Reagan told a TRUE story of a real life woman. But that's racist right? I guess Linda Taylor was just an isolated case, right? Or perhaps you have "read" into Reagan's recitation of this story that he is saying "all black welfare recipients are lazy and milking the system? In which case I'd admonish you to answer your own question: "This is really sad CBW. You really think black folks are stupid don't you?"Star Parker, one of my favorite people in the whole world talks about how she abused the welfare system. Maybe it would have been more palatable for you (and the queers for economic justice) if Ronald Reagan had found a white welfare queen? Well, I can help ya'll out: check out JAM Donalson's blog @ she has a whole section dedicated to white ghetto fabulousness.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Left Coast Rebel~I think this is a great clip too. It showed up in my google alerts a couple of weeks ago but I just listened to it and was blown away. I've check out your blog and am now following you.

uptownsteve said...

This is hopeless.

CBW, shall I produce examples of white folks abusing the system whether it be unemployment fraud, insurance fraud, tax cheating etc..

What Reagan was doing was classic race baiting.

Subliminal message that blacks are taking something from white folks that they either don't deserve or have obtained illegally.

It's the same with your incessant bashing of Barack Obama and glorification of the racist Reagan.

It's an attack on black folks in general.

Blacks are looking to Obama as the messiah and are ultimately going to be disappointed because not only will he not be able to deliver enough gubmint handouts but he actually has to be President for all of America.

The same tired racist bs that black people are too stupid and childlike to discern their best interests and vote accordingly.

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS~"It's the same with your incessant bashing of Barack Obama and glorification of the racist Reagan.Ok, you perceive the posting of one Reagan speech and deconstructing said speech to illustrate the parallels that we are facing almost 50 years later as "glorification" completely missing the point that Statism is not a new agenda.

Yet you fail to see how young men referring to Barack Obama as the Alpha & Omega--tranlation The Beginning and The End referenced in Revelations 21:6 is attributing "Messiah" characteristics to Obama here is the video not making this up:

You fail to see how the following statement attribute "god-like" qualities to Barack Obama:

Ezra Kline writes:
"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."Oprah Winfrey said:
" "We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."Lawrence Carter said:
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."Dinesh Sharma wrote:
"Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama."Mark Morford wrote:
"A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"Steve Davis of Charleston SC left this comment on DailyKos:
""He communicates God-like energy..."UTS,I fear that you are so consumed with racism and racist and the reality of the existence thereof that you fail to acknowledge that OTHER realities.

For the record I don't "incessantly bash Obama" I pertinaciously discuss Barack Obama's extremely successful advancement of his radical, leftist, socialist agenda because the MSM will not. Neither will most black bloggers...what you will find in both of these outlets are pretty pictures of the Obama family and discussions about who had the never to "diss" our FLOTUS.

Also, I'm not saying I'm special, however I clearly have a different opinion than most so call it "what cha wanna".

Conservative Black Woman said...

oops, I meant to say "who had the nerve to "diss" our FLOTUS.

uptownsteve said...

"Also, I'm not saying I'm special, however I clearly have a different opinion than most so call it "what cha wanna"."


You align your black self with the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and Ronald friggin Reagan.

Go on wit yo bad self girl.

JMK said...

"The REAL Reagan legacy?"He saved America from the economic armegeddon that culminated with the Carter administration.

Reagan inherited the WORST American economy since the Great Depression: - DOUBLE DIGIT Unemployment, DOUBLE DIGIT Inflation and DOUBLE DIGIT Interest Rates. A four year average annual Misery Index of 16.4 and a staggering 22 pt Misery Index for 1980!

Reagan's policies brought the Misery Index DOWN every year he was in office until the Misery Index reached SINGLE DIGITS (1985), where it stayed throughout the rest of his tenure.

Reagan aggressively confronted Communism around the world, liberating millions from the slavery to the Communist state. He confronted Soviet expansion around the world and those confrontations wound up bankrupting the former USSR, which today, has a very market oriented economy, complete with a 15% Flat tax!

Only a committed fellow-hater would quote from the (thankfully) little-known hate-site "Queers for Economic Justice" - a pro-Stalinist group that doesn't have a single recognized "scholar."

Wait, don't tell thought you were quoting the NY Times...funny stuff.

Constructive Feedback said...


I have to empathize with UptownSteve on this one.

Why did you purposefully antagonize him by putting Ronald Reagan up?

If you want Steve to hear the truth - you are going to have to put a better messenger up for him to consider.

Anonymous said...

Great post and a sad commentary on what is happening right before our eyes. Too bad people are too deceived to even want to open their eyes to the truth.

Anonymous said...

Both Bush and Obama have been fiscal disasters, but with a projected $ 1.8 trillion deficit, Obama on average is about four times as bad as Bush. No wonder some Obama fans talk no policy and confine themselves to birther updates. If this country is to survive, Obama must lose the congress in 2010.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Anonymous 1:41pm~If this country is to survive the electorate needs to wise up. Many Americans are dumb as hell and have no sense of history, policy or basic civics. We are an apathetic, gullible lot who are too stupid to realize what grave danger our country is facing with this contemptable ideologue at the helm. God help all...although we certainly don't deserve it.

JMK said...

"Both Bush and Obama have been fiscal disasters, but with a projected $ 1.8 trillion deficit, Obama on average is about four times as bad as Bush." (Anonymous)
Absolutely right.

G W Bush was as Keynesian (pro-big government) as his Dad was, which is about as Keynesian as Richard Nixon was.

Barack Obama is about as Keynesian as Jimmy Carter was.

Yes, he's "worse," but that's merely a matter of degree.

In a very real sense, we have, what Chalres Krauthamer calls G W Obama as President today.
"Many Americans are dumb as hell and have no sense of history, policy or basic civics. We are an apathetic, gullible lot who are too stupid to realize what grave danger our country is facing..." (CBW)
I know it seems that way CBW, but most Americans are simply spoiled, rather than meely dumb.

Remember, the Rockefeller-wing of the GOP foisted McCain on a larely unwilling base and when faced with the choice between a half-hearted, pseudo-Liberal, like McCain and a full fledged Liberal, like Barack Obama, thy choose the real deal.

The Democrats have been charged with one thing, "FIX IT," which means return us to prosperity quikly without any pain.

That's impossible, given the economic realities we face.

But THAT is what they promised and THAT is what they're expected to deliver.

Right now the Deficit has quadrupled over the last three months and the National Debt is ballooning to dangerous levels. At the current rate, by early 2010, the cost of financing that debt will rise FROM about 5% of GDP (which it was when Obama took office) TO 16% of GDP!

That will put an extraordinary inflationary pressure on the economy and as the inflation rate rises, interest rates will be dragged UPWARDS too.

Before the October elections of 2010, we could very easily have a return to STAGFLATION - DOUBLE DIGIT inflation, interest and unemployment rates.

Take heart CB. Nothing that can be put in place can't be undone out of "necessity," "emergency" or "crisis."

Keynesianism must be allowed to fail...and tht's going to be very painful, but only its failure ill bring a spoiled people to he ealization that there's noeasy way "quick fix."

Apparently I'm a little more optimistic than you are, but then again, I may be wrong in the long run...I guess we'll see.

Phil_redeploy said...

Great Blog CBW!! I found it from a link on -

CBW and JMK... you can preach truth all day long, but Uptown Steve will never understand it! (He sees everything through race-tinted glasses). Just like you can't get white racists to see how wrong they are, you can't get black racists to see how wrong they are!

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

How can reasonable, rational people forget that Reagan cut funding for poor people and lowered taxes for the richest people in America? That his policies led to raise the federal debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion and the US moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation? And that the inequality also increased, the share of total income going to the 5% highest-income households grew from 16.5% in 1980 to 18.3% in 1988 and the share of the highest fifth increased from 44.1% to 46.3% in same years. In contrast, the share of total income of the lowest fifth fell from 4.2% in 1980 to 3.8% in 1988 and the second poorest fifth from 10.2% to 9.6%.