Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Judge Sonia Sotomayor An Exemplary Illustration Of Far Left Justices

Charles Krauthammer Reacts To Sotomayor Pick for the Supreme Court:




Charles Krauthammer has hit the nail on the proverbial head yet again as he suggests that identity politics is the mother's milk of the far left. This couldn't be more clearly illustrated with President Obama's nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor. I personally find it very difficult to get behind the nomination of a judge who is heralded as an intellectual sharp-shooter but who in my opinion has allowed her alleged above average intellect to be overruled by her obvious propensity towards grievance or identity politics.

Sotomayor's decision in the Ricci v. DeStefano case, is currently in front of the U.S. Supreme. Writing in the Washington Post, George Will provides a one paragraph précis of the case:

In 2003, the city [of New Haven, Connecticut] gave promotion exams--prepared by a firm specializing in employment tests, and approved, as federal law requires, by independent experts--to 118 candidates, 27 of them black. None of the blacks did well enough to qualify for the 15 immediately available promotions. After a rabble-rousing minister with close ties to the mayor disrupted meetings and warned of dire political consequences if the city promoted persons from the list generated by the exams, the city said: No one will be promoted. Sotomayor ruled against the firefighters, a decision that her colleague and fellow Clinton appointee Judge Jose Cabranes, writes The New Republic's Jeffery Rosen, denounced as containing "no reference whatsoever to the constitutional issues at the core of this case." (source)

This trend of "sticking it to the man" in order to "even the playing field" is going to prove detrimental to all minorities in the long run. Principle matters. Allowing personal prejudices to impede our decision to stand on that which is right is a recipe for civil unrest. Things are going to get very ugly.

52 comments:

Paul Ervin said...

Title VII: Refusal to implement tests in which whites scored higher than minorities <-----------she was following law that were established by civil rights act. Failure to do so would have been "legislating from the bench"

Conservative Black Woman said...

If only it were that simple Paul as the white and Hispanic applicants sued claiming a violation of Title VII and of the equal protection clause.Good old common horse sense dictates that they are absolutely correct.

Paul Ervin said...

okay CBW, but don't "conservatives" scream that they want strict followers/interpreters of the law and not those who think it is a breathing document/thing that should be interpreted in a nuanced way? And FYI i an NOT "liberal" (i will explain the quotes at your leisure)

Conservative Black Woman said...

PaulErvin~Conservatives, myself included do not believe that the constitution is a "living, breathing document" as President Obama believes. We believe that the job of justices is to interpret the law not advance their personal politic. Are you implying that to rule in favor of the white and hispanic firefighters would be a "re-interpretation" of the civil rights act of 1964? Are you implying that only minorities have civil rights? Are you implying that the decision of the New Haven Fire Department was just and that those firefighter's were discriminated against?

Secondly, when did I accuse you of being a liberal. I don't believe I know you, do I?

JMK said...

"...she (Judge Sotomayor) was following law that were established by civil rights act. Failure to do so would have been "legislating from the bench"..." Paul Ervin)
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Actually NO existing law states that "tests in which ANY ethnic/racial group outscores another should be invalidated."

That claim is without any merit.

In fact, the basis for challenging standardized testing (disparate impact) has fallen out of favor among the vast majority of legal scholars and has few supporters in any courts today.

Asian students routinely outscore all others on various standardized exams and are disproportionately represented in most of the major science and engineering programs around the country.

They are NOT "taking seats" that "should go" to whites, Hispanics and blacks who at least meet the minimum qualifications for entry into those programs.

That would be a specious argument and no U.S. laws could be used to support such an inane claim.

Conservative Black Woman said...

I meant to say: the decision of the New Haven Fire Department was just and that those firefighter's were not discriminated against?

Paul Ervin said...

PaulErvin~Conservatives, myself included do not believe that the constitution is a "living, breathing document" as President Obama believes. We believe that the job of justices is to interpret the law not advance their personal politic. Are you implying that to rule in favor of the white and hispanic firefighters would be a "re-interpretation" of the civil rights act of 1964? Are you implying that only minorities have civil rights?<---------not at all but the law stipulates that when something like this happens (no blacks passing test) the results be throw out to ensure it was not biased. it was not her "personal" feelings per sea , but the letter of the law.




Are you implying that the decision of the New Haven Fire Department was just and that those firefighter's were discriminated against? <--------no, i think it is stupid, but the city was fearful of a law suit the other way!

Secondly, when did I accuse you of being a liberal. I don't believe I know you, do I?<-------no, i apologize. call it a pre-emptive defence. Some think if you disagree with anything you have to be the polar opposite. at least on the internets!

Paul Ervin said...

AT JMK!!!

h) Seniority or merit system; quantity or quality of production; ability tests; compensation based on sex and authorized by minimum wage provisions

Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, it shall not be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to apply different standards of compensation, or different terms, conditions, or privileges of employment pursuant to a bona fide seniority or merit system, or a system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of production or to employees who work in different locations, provided that such differences are not the result of an intention to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, nor shall it be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to give and to act upon the results of any professionally developed ability test provided that such test, its administration or action upon the results is not designed, intended or used to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin. It shall not be an unlawful employment practice under this subchapter for any employer to differentiate upon the basis of sex in determining the amount of the wages or compensation paid or to be paid to employees of such employer if such differentiation is authorized by the provisions of section 206(d) of Title 29 [section 6(d) of the Labor Standards Act of 1938, as amended]. <---------------do not play with me, I am not UPTOWN Steve, I have forgotten more about Fed. LAws and the U.S. Political process than you will know in 3 lifetimes!

Conservative Black Woman said...

PaulErvin~"the law stipulates that when something like this happens (no blacks passing test) the results be throw out to ensure it was not biased. it was not her "personal" feelings per sea , but the letter of the law."Ok, if this is correct then I stand corrected.

JMK said...

“I am not UPTOWN Steve...” (Paul Ervin)
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Well, that’s a relief...and I’m very happy for you on that score.

Unfortunately for you, after that, everything you posted backs up exactly what I said....it shall NOT be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to apply different standards of compensation, or different terms, conditions, or privileges of employment pursuant to a bona fide seniority or merit system, or a system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of production or to employees who work in different locations, provided that such differences are not the result of an intention to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin...”<
That paragraph makes clear that an employer CAN legally apply different standards (different compensation, terms, conditions, privileges of employment etc.) UNLESS they can be proven to the result of a deliberate intention to discriminate against ANY given group.

It also makes clear that the burden of proof is on the person alleging discrimination and that disparate impact (disproportionate results) do not, in and of themselves prove discrimination...which is what I said.
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AGAIN, that paragraph backs up EVERYTHING I just said!

It is NOT unlawful for an employer “to give and to act upon the results of any professionally developed ability test provided that such test, its administration or action upon the results IS NOT DESIGNED, INTENDED or USED to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin.”That also makes clear that the burden of proof is on the party alleging discrimination AND that disparate impact is, in and of itself, NOT proof of intentional or deliberate discrimination.

NONE of that implies that a “refusal to implement tests in which whites scored higher than minorities...was following law that were established by civil rights act.”Actually, it’s as I said, there is NO existing law that states that "tests in which ANY ethnic/racial group (ie. whites) outscores another (ie. blacks) should be invalidated."

That would clearly violate the most basic principle of this government, equality before the law, so that claim (that tests that render disparate outcomes must be invalidated) is without any merit.

Anonymous said...

This is a meritocracy based on achievement and not entitlement, or atleast it use to. I read an article about the unhinged corruption in the mexican supreme court. This so-called entitlement princess is nothing more than a corrupt bureaucrat who couldn't interpret alphabet.

JMK said...

"the law stipulates that when something like this happens (no blacks passing test) the results be throw out to ensure it was not biased." (Paul Ervin)

(1) That's NOT "what happened" in New Haven.

Blacks DID pass the test, none ranked in the top 15 candidates. An Hispanic applicant did.

And (2) the use of the discredited "disparate impact" is NOT codified into law and isn't a valid legal proof of deliberate/intentional discrimination.

The employment statutes YOU posted make that all very clear.

Anonymous said...

Now that international crisis is here. It’s 3 AM and the phone in the White House is ringing. But rather than answer, President Obama is pulling the covers over his head by announcing this Supreme Court nominee and first rate loser at this time. The message being sent to the world community could not be clearer. The United States, under obama, is not going to take a leading role in dealing with international incidents, leaving that to the incompetent and corrupt bureaucracy at the United Nations. Domestically, the Administration is seeking to keep the American people focused on areas where the president can look good and sustain his high personal approval ratings. It is a distrustful governing strategy with potentially serious implications on the world stage employed by a decidedly unserious Administration.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Anonymous 4:57Pm~"The message being sent to the world community could not be clearer. The United States, under obama, is not going to take a leading role in dealing with international incidents, leaving that to the incompetent and corrupt bureaucracy at the United Nations. Domestically, the Administration is seeking to keep the American people focused on areas where the president can look good and sustain his high personal approval ratings."I am in complete agreement with you. It's very clear that Obama is a lightweight who is more concerned with his personal mass appeal than he is with keeping American's safe. This nation is being lead by a group of immature, inexperienced ideologues who want don't believe in American exceptionalism and who deem such an opinion arrogant. It's very sad and I shutter to think of how American will look at the end of this abominable administration. I willing to bet that the poor will be poorer, the rich will be less rich and the mega-wealthy will have defected.

Constructive Feedback said...

The name Miguel Estrada should fill the halls of congress:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Estrada

In listening to some on the left questioning "GOP attacks on a HISPANIC" - they need to review their own actions about 8 years ago against Estrada.

Anonymous said...

Well CBW if this is any indication, rich folks are see the writing on the wall and fleeing. It’s going to be amazing to see people who voted for Obamunists to start fleeing his marxist utopia, especially the Hollyweirdo’s

Maryland's Missing Millionaires

Hopefully the looters running Maryland are learning a lesson regarding the limits of the eat-the-rich politics so fashionable among Obamunists:
Maryland couldn't balance its budget last year, so the state tried to close the shortfall by fleecing the wealthy. Politicians in Annapolis created a millionaire tax bracket, raising the top marginal income-tax rate to 6.25%. And because cities such as Baltimore and Bethesda also impose income taxes, the state-local tax rate can go as high as 9.45%. Governor Martin O'Malley, a dedicated class warrior, declared that these richest 0.3% of filers were "willing and able to pay their fair share." The Baltimore Sun predicted the rich would "grin and bear it."

One year later, nobody's grinning. One-third of the millionaires have disappeared from Maryland tax rolls. In 2008 roughly 3,000 million-dollar income tax returns were filed by the end of April. This year there were 2,000, which the state comptroller's office concedes is a "substantial decline." On those missing returns, the government collects 6.25% of nothing. Instead of the state coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year — even at higher rates.
This is in part due to the recession, but largely due to the wealthy escaping Maryland, just as they've been escaping California, New York, and New Jersey. The middle class is left behind to pay for grotesquely metastasizing government. When it is taxed out of existence, Maryland will turn into a giant Detroit.

But this can't happen at a federal level. You can't escape Obama's "spread the wealth around" economics by crossing state lines.

Instead, those with wealth and the companies that create that wealth will be forced to leave the country.

Then we won't have them to oppress us with employment anymore, and Detroit will stretch from sea to shining sea.

Cross-posted at Moonbattery.

Linda said...

Well, I'll probably get in trouble again, but I think that the best qualified person should get the jobs, no matter their race, religion, or politics.

JMK said...

"I think that the best qualified person should get the jobs, no matter their race, religion, or politics." (Linda)
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The parameters of "qualified" can be debatable, Linda, but what cannot be argued is that "standardized tests discriminate against any ethnic/racial group".

So long as the same exam is given to all the applicants and everyone is held to the same standards, then you can't ask for anything more than that.

You certainly can't or shouldn't ask for anything like "proportionate results".

Yet THAT is what those on the side of race/gender preferences are arguing and that is, in effect, arguing that one group is less capable, less able than others.

Individuals differ widely in interests, abilities and ambition

Linda said...

I agree with JMK about the standard testing, but there are going to be some that say the field isn't level because of background issues.

uptownsteve said...

"do not play with me, I am not UPTOWN Steve"

Do I know you Mr. Ervin?

Do you know me?

uptownsteve said...

"Yet THAT is what those on the side of race/gender preferences are arguing and that is, in effect, arguing that one group is less capable, less able than others."

No they aren't. They are arguing that there is a reason why these "tests" seem to favor certain folks, came into existence only when these departments were forced to integrate, and often have nothing to do with the job being performed.

JMK, answer a question honestly for once in your life.

Why do you think that blacks and whites perform at equal levels in the military?

Test scores, advancements, military schools, DOD schools, commission etc.....

Could it possibly be because everyone starts from the same place?

Are exposed to the same training, same evaulation, same advancement criteria?

The results are objective and subject to scrutiny?

Ya think?

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS~"They are arguing that there is a reason why these "tests" seem to favor certain folks, came into existence only when these departments were forced to integrate, and often have nothing to do with the job being performed."Don't you think that regardless of why the department began administering the tests that everyone should take the necessary steps to prepare to score highly on them. Won't you think that if the black fire fighters believed that the department was using this test as a "weeding out" mechanism that they would have worked even harder to score highly? I hope you are not suggesting that the tests are "racially biased" because that's a crock of Bullshiester which suggests intellectual inferiority in my opinion.

uptownsteve said...

CBW

Why don't YOU answer my questions about the US military?

Why do blacks do just as well as anyone else in the services?

Could it be that they have been treated equally alot longer than in other segments of American society?

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS~I can't answer that question. I can't say that I even agree with the premise that blacks in the military are treated equally? That's not what I've heard from my military friends--(but,they tend to be racism chasers so who knows?)

But it that your contention? That the black fire fighters would have scored higher if only they had been the recipients of "white people love"? LOL...serious, what they heck does being treated "equally" have to do with performance? I'll tell you a secret(which I'm sure you will manage to distort to mean something else but) I love it when I'm underestimated professionally by others (white or black). It gives me great pleasure to prove them wrong. Where would we be as a people if we based our "performance" on how others perceive or treat us? Isn't that kind of sophomoric?

uptownsteve said...

CBW,

You're avoiding the issue obviously.

If black scoring lower on tests than other groups in this department is the issue, then why is there no racial or performance gap in the military which has been intergrated and more representative of America demographically than any other segment of society?

And since you want to go there, what the hell does this standardized test have to do with being a firefighter?

You're not going to tell me that those fat drunken Irish firemen at the station in the West Bronx where I grew up took any standardized test to get on the force.

Rose-Bud said...

Comment on military and their use of testing: The military has been the source for many researchers way before any of us were born to test theories on behavior, aptitude, motivation, etc. Along with this is population studies. Now they have entry tests, and physical test that had been 'dummed' down to allow women and certain types to enter into the military. I have first hand information on this from the college-military students I teach, and from family members who have been or are serving our country. Not everyone admitted will succeed, and do well, but at least the military did give them a chance. BTW, I am a black female.
Those black New Haven firefighters who took the test and didn't pass, "whoopie doo-doo"! They have been given a chance to be good firefighters now. I wonder how many blacks or white didn't pass that exam?

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uptownsteve said...

CBW,

You're avoiding the issue obviously.

If black scoring lower on tests than other groups in this department is the issue, then why is there no racial or performance gap in the military which has been intergrated and more representative of America demographically than any other segment of society?

And since you want to go there, what the hell does this standardized test have to do with being a firefighter? You're not going to tell me that those fat drunken Irish firemen at the station in the West Bronx where I grew up took any standardized test to get on the force.
I am sorry uptight steve, but you are sorely mistaken. Firefighers do much more that drag out a hose and put out fires. They have to know how to use equipment that they use to get into burning building, they have to know how to use equipment to get people out of wrecked cars and demolished buildings. They need to know just a little more than basic first aid being that they are usually the first responders to any accident or fire.

Just because a few are "drunken Irishmen" does not mean that they do not need to know all the equipment that they work with. So I believe you need to rethink how you think about some of our hero's.

And they are all hero's regardless if they can pass a test or not.

uptownsteve said...

heroes my ass.

The NY Fire Department was and probably still is one of the most racist agencies in America.

This just happened in February.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/12/2009-02-12_probie_wifes_explosive_charge_racist_fdn.html

uptownsteve said...

"Now they have entry tests, and physical test that had been 'dummed' down to allow women and certain types to enter into the military."

The problem with this is that there is now a lower percentage of blacks and women in the Armed Forces than in 35 years.

You conservative negroes have serious psychological issues.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1221-04.htm

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uptownsteve said...

heroes my ass.
I seriously hope that you never need any of their services in your lifetime.

I guess they weren't hero's that went into WTC I and II and risked their lives to save others. I guess they aren't hero's that go into a burning building to rescue people that are trapped or otherwise can't get out.

In my book, even though I have never had to use their services, they are HEROS

Just another name said...

uptownsteve said...

heroes my ass.

The NY Fire Department was and probably still is one of the most racist agencies in America.

This just happened in February.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/02/12/2009-02-12_probie_wifes_explosive_charge_racist_fdn.htm
I guess that you believe that only the blacks were subjected to the strenuous physical training. And not the whites.

BTW look at this:

A probationary firefighter who collapsed during an FDNY training session suffered from a heart problem that contributed to his death, the medical examiner said Friday.

Jamel Sears, whose widow intends to sue the city and the Fire Department in a $10 million wrongful death case, was afflicted with atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, an autopsy showed.

The ailment, caused by plaque buildup in the arteries, can cause heart attacks and sudden death, according to the American Heart Association.
from http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/02/14/2009-02-14_heart_disease_factor_in_fdny_trainee_jam.html

Please UPTIGHT STEVE get your facts straight before trying race chasing.

uptownsteve said...

"I guess they weren't hero's that went into WTC I and II and risked their lives to save others. I guess they aren't hero's that go into a burning building to rescue people that are trapped or otherwise can't get out."

They were heroes in the same sense Giuliani was a hero.

They showed up and did their friggin jobs.

Isn't running into buildings on fire what they are paid to do?

Just another name said...

UPTIGHT STEVE

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/02/14/2009-02-14_heart_disease_factor_in_fdny_trainee_jam.html

I tried that link by copy and paste didn't work just google Jamel Sears FDNY and it comes up as the first article. Just want you to get facts straight.

IMO it seems like black men are more physically fit than most white men, so it seems to me that if the physical tests were more challenging then it would be harder on the white men than the other way around.

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uptownsteve said...


They were heroes in the same sense Giuliani was a hero.

They showed up and did their friggin jobs.

Isn't running into buildings on fire what they are paid to do?
UPTIGHT steve I personally do not consider Giuliani in the same caliber as any firefighter. So no he is not a hero, he just happened to be mayor of NYC at a sad time of our history. The firefighters OTOH are hero's regardless if they get paid or not. In a little community like where I live the firefighters are volunteers, they may get a small portion of pay for what they do but they do it as a full time job like some in the big citys do. I personally believe that firefighters, police and the brave men of our military do not get paid enough for what they risk each and every day.

Just another name said...

In a little community like where I live the firefighters are volunteers, they may get a small portion of pay for what they do but they do not do it as a full time job like some in the big citys do.I forgot to add the "do not"

uptownsteve said...

"IMO it seems like black men are more physically fit than most white men"

Because the NFL and NBA are majority black?????

omigod.

It just gets more and more bizarre.

Just another person said...

uptownsteve said...


Because the NFL and NBA are majority black?????

omigod.

It just gets more and more bizarre.
again with your race chasing, you can't come up with a good argument so you go back to the race baiting.

Have fun.

JMK said...

"...They are arguing that there is a reason why these "tests" seem to favor certain folks, came into existence only when these departments were forced to integrate, and often have nothing to do with the job being performed." (UTS)
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That's demonstrably UNTRUE, UTS.

The standrdized exams of the 1950s were far broader in the scope and range of the knowledge tested, the FDNY entrance exams included some basic hydraulics questions and questions on city government.

Those exams were "watered down" in response to blacks scoring lower in the 1960s and 1970s.

There are a lot of possible reasons why blacks CURRENTLY (any exam is merely a snapshot in time and does not imply that such a result will continue) do not score as well as other groups. One is that most College educated blacks take other opportunities, leaving a pool of less well-educated blacks competing against many whites with College educations.

Many of the guys I worked with, had engineering degrees, accounting degrees and left jobs they hated for the chance to do try this work.

There are any number of possible reasons for the current disparity.

And your claim about the U.S. Military is also untrue.

98% of the Military's pilots are white and male...and a similar percentage of the Navy Seals are white and male as well.

"But the military, which has become a model of diversity at many levels, has yet to break up the white male fraternity in the most desirable ranks. White males still make up 98% of military pilots. Military officials say many minority servicemen lack the high level of education required for flight school."http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,134616,00.html?iid=chix-digg

Why is that?

I really don't know. I haven't really ever given that much consideration.

We DON'T measure people by group. Standardized tests and other objective criteria compare individuals, and individuals differ widely in term of interests, abilities and aptitudes.

It is absolutely and insanely wrong to perpetuate the myth that "standardized exams" discriminate against ANY given ethnic group," that myth stigmatizes those it claims to champion with the label of "presumed incompetence", and that's an unfounded myth.

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JMK said...

"They were heroes in the same sense Giuliani was a hero."They showed up and did their friggin jobs."Isn't running into buildings on fire what they are paid to do?" (UTS)
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That is correct, in the case of the firefighters, "they did exactly what they were paid to do."A number of unfortunate events, some foreseen and others unforeseen occurred that day and as a result 343 firefighters,37 Port Authority cops and 23 NYPD cops were killed, but yes, they were all doing exactly what they got paid to do. As did Fahey, Ford and Downing at the Father's Day fire and Don Franklin, killed 1/13/01 on 166th St in the Bronx earlier that year.

Guiliani DID provide leadership, much in the manner of FDR after Pearl Harbor. He became "America's Mayor" that day.

9/11 did a lot to help Guiliani overcome some major image problems related to a messy divorce...Rudy Guiliani did rise to he occassion as a leader that day and politicians are gauged on how they deal with crises....and there was no bigger crises post-WW II.

The emergency responders who responded to the attacks certainly responded professionally and with dedication, which is exactly what they were paid to do, but Guiliani did warrant the kudos and accolades given to him that day.

Lovebug said...

@just another person, although I
usually find most of UptownSteve's comments to be hilarious, I think he has a good point. How did you reach the conclusion that black men are more physically fit than most white men? Did you read this in a book or a research study? I am not accusing you of being a racist, which would be ridiculous since I don't know you.
I just want to know what facts are informing your opinion.

just another name said...

@ lovebug

Most of the black men that I have met in my lifetime are long and lean, very well built. I have yet to see one that has a beerbelly. Which on most white guys it is a given. I am not a racist, unlike Uptight steve.

uptownsteve said...

Lovebug,

You're a black conservative and you find MY remarks hilarious?

You negroes occupy a parellel universe.

JMK said...

"Most of the black men that I have met in my lifetime are long and lean, very well built. I have yet to see one that has a beerbelly. Which on most white guys it is a given. I am not a racist, unlike Uptight steve." (justanothername)
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Just another name said...

@ JMK I live out in the country, where most people can go outside and work at what ever they want to work at, and IMHO most of the white men are lazy good for nothing lazy a** SOB's, that drink beer and are bigoted. (My self and family excluded.) And most of the black men work hard and are good at what they do.

While I do agree with you on the obese problem in the US and how it affects people all across the nation, I was speaking of the men that I have personally met. Not on the whole. Being that I haven't even make it across the Mississippi river or above the Mason/Dixon line.

JMK said...

That's part of the human condition.

It's easier to be lazy, self-pitying, reckless and irresponsible.

In years past, during our developmental period, there was a high cost for such things and as a result, there were far more self-reliant, hard-working people.

Our growing affluence has led to more social programs that, in turn, reduce or eliminate the penalties for such behaviors.

Affluence and abundance is a daunting challenge for humans, who adapted to the scarcity inherent in the natural world. Affluence spoils, weakens resolve and undermines morality, once based on the need by people struggling in an inhosptiable world to seek refuge in faith and a common moral code.

Like obesity, laziness is an epidemic that cuts across all racial/ethnic lines.

uptownsteve said...

JMK,

You don't look like you miss too many meals.

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...

JMK,

You don't look like you miss too many meals.

June 1, 2009 10:40 AM
Have nothing to say but love to hurl insults.

Phil_redeploy said...

From what I've read, Uptown Steve is just a racist who hates white folks (and it shows in just about every post!).

odooley8939 said...

To Paul Ervin

The US Constitution

[quote]Amendment 14
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State
wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge
the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any
State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of
law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the
laws.
[/quote]

Next liberals are going to say that because there are a higher percentage of Americans who happen to be in engineering classes that differential equations are "racist"

*Rolls eyes*

A more likely explanation is that since the soft racism of liberals (ie lower expectations vs merit) is that the blacks in question didn't study as hard as the two hispanics & whites because they figured they'd get a pass

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