Basically the Princess Of Prada, the speaker of the democratic plantation is saying let's fund Planned Parenthood because they are in the business of killing black babies. Yes, they call it contraception but these abortuaries which litter black communities kill more babies than contraception counseling.
However, I have to tip my hat to PSBO (President Select Barack Obama) because it appears that he is urging Pelosi and Reid to axe the "contraception" pork for the bill (at least for now).
"Democratic leaders in the House are nearly certain to drop federal funding for new contraceptive services and on-going programs to stop sexually transmitted diseases from the $825 billion economic stimulus bill due to hit the floor Tuesday, a senior official told FOX News.
The decision is due Tuesday morning in advance of two high-profile meetings President Obama will hold with House and Senate Republicans to build bipartisan support for his massive economic stimulus bill. The bill contains $87 billion in emergency Medicaid funding to help states crushed by deficits. …
Despite Pelosi’s argument, Democrats and the Obama White House appear eager to deprive Republicans of what’s become a key attack line against the stimulus bill."(Source)
Well, I guess Planned Parenthood has to wait in line behind the unions but I'm sure PSBO will get around to paying them back as well.
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I have said it before and I will say it again, Nancy Pelosi is either obscenely wicked or the most profoundly stupid person to ever hold elected office.
UptownSteve~Morality aside -- Do you feel that funding PPFA (Abortions) stimulates the economy?
Do you feel that Gov't should sponsor abortions? If so, is it problematic to you 80% of abortuaries are in black communities?
@uptownsteve
Let's see if this helps. A conservative hierarchy of pregnancy options:
1. Married couple has a baby
2. Unmarried woman/couple has unintended pregnancy, but chooses to let their baby live.
3. Unmarried woman because of whatever reason decides to kill her baby.
See, a married couple having and raising a baby is the ideal, what we advocate and shoot for, for this is best for the child and society. We don't like it when people have children while unmarried, but it sure does beat the other option of killing that child instead.
Makes sense to me.
Judy Bright
"She has five kids, and wants to tell others not to have all those burdensome babies?"
This is ridiculous.
She wants women to have the option to end an unwanted pregnancy.
You're living in la-la land.
It would be great if everyone only had children when they were in secure loving relationships but reality isn't that way.
I would damn sure rather a woman terminate a pregnancy knowing that she could not produce a loving secure home for that child rather than still another unloved undisciplined, unsupervised child being brought into this world that conservatives like you can label "dysfunctional".
Abortion should not be used as a means of contraception nor should it be government sanctioned.
Abstinence is the best contraceptive but a box of condoms along with birth control pills are cheaper and more convenient for those who cannot control themselves.
"Abortion should not be used as a means of contraception..."
Not for you to decide.
It's the choice of the individual.
The inconsistency of conservatives is always a wonder to behold.
Why is it, black conservatives - who constantly wail that they give a damn about black abortions...
Don't give a damn that the infant mortality rate among black women is 28 times higher than white women in the US?
If abortion is murder...
Then a failed health care system which late term aborts black babies...
Isn't?
Again I ask UptownSteve...Should the government sponsor abortion?
Are you not bothered that 80% of abortuaries are in black communities? What does this mean?
You write:"Don't give a damn that the infant mortality rate among black women is 28 times higher than white women in the US?"
I don't mean this callously but why is that? Is it because of poor nutrition, smoking, drugs, genetics? I don't know. But I wouldn't have a problem with Planned Parenthood receiving government funds to provide prenatal care.
Perhaps UptownSteve your party the democrats are happy about the high infant mortality rates among black women -- the net result the same as abortion a dead black baby. Perhaps I should ask why all of you liberal types are beating down PPFA door demanding that they provide prenatal care.
@uptownsteve
"Abortion should not be used as a means of contraception..."
Not for you to decide.
It's the choice of the individual.
OK if it is the choice of the individual then let the individual pay for it not the taxpayers!
By giving it federal funding we say that it is not the individuals choice but society's choice or better yet taxpayers.
"Are you not bothered that 80% of abortuaries are in black communities? What does this mean?"
This is an out and out lie.
I challenge you to prove it with real evidence.
80% of abortion clinics are in or around metropolitan areas, many with large black populations.
This is more fact twisting and manipulation from the right.
I'll wait for your evidence.
"By giving it federal funding we say that it is not the individuals choice but society's choice or better yet taxpayers."
I'm for a universal health care system.
It seems strange that every developed Western nation has one except the US.
Gays in the military as well.
Hopefully these things will change since we've thrown out the rightwing troglodytes who've f^cked this country up for most of the last 25 years.
"Nobody is forced to get an abortion.
You righties can't have it both ways.
You can't yap about 70% out of wedlock births in the black community and then whine about a woman choosing to abort a pregnancy, especially if she's poor and not in a committed relationship."
Than maybe she should practice safe sex or not have sex at all. An ounce of protection is a whole lot cheaper than an abortion or, raising a child when you’re unprepared.
What I find so ironic about the pro-choice argument is that people want to focus on the choice after the fact. What about the choice you had and decisions you made before the fact- choices that would've prevented you from being in this situation altogether (i.e. abstinence, condoms, the pill, Norplant, Plan B, and all the other NUMEROUS options available). I also don't buy the argument that "things just happen." Babies do not just happen. It's not oops I fell down and now I'm pregnant. People make conscious decisions.
Personal responsibility. Don't put yourself in a sticky situation (due to your own personal decisions) and then get angry at me (someone who had nothing to do with your personal decisions) when I don't want to bail you out.
"It seems strange that every developed Western nation has one except the US."
Ha! Talk about out and out lies and ridiculousness. Where has universal healthcare worked effectively? Where they haven't had to raise taxes and/or ration healthcare to make the system work?
I love the argument that because everyone else is doing it we should too. So I guess if everyone was jumping off a bridge Steve you'd be a follower and jump off too.
UptownSteve:" challenge you to prove it with real evidence."
OK,...
http://www.usccb.org/comm/archives/2008/08-152.shtml
12th paragraph 2nd sentence. More to follow. But let's start here.
One more source Uptown...
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2008/09/23/TrendsWomenAbortions-wTables.pdf
CBW
You did exactly what I knew you would do.
You didn't provide any evidence to substantiate your claim that "80% of abortion clinics were in black areas."
You just produced links to some rants from anti-abortion activists.
Uptown~Hell you can go straight to the source and figure this out in your own state....
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-center/findCenter.asp
I'm in NOVA (Fairfax County) not exactly a black community and There is one clinic in Falls Church in shall we say a "seedy" part of town some not so affleunt white folks. In DC there are 2 one on 16th st. (hispanics) One on Minnesota Avenue (the "hood').
Ok Einstein I mean Uptown Steve then you tell me what percentage of abortionuaries are in the black community. Do you reject that a disproportionate number of them are located in black communities? Still you have not addressed whether or not they should be funded with your tax dollars?
@CBW, some people just don't want to hear it and no matter how many facts or how much information you provide them with nothing will change their minds.
So true Zabeth...
Zabeth, CBW
Cheerlead for each other all you like but you still haven't proven anything and are just peddling rightwing propoganda.
I just pulled up the Planned Parenthood website and looked for the Maryland locations and saw them in Annapolis, Easton, Gaithersburg, Frederick, Salisbury and Waldorf.
All very WHITE.
In fact the only predominately black area was the Baltimore city Clinic.
You're all wet.
Hope we're still gonna be nice to each other though.
"You're all wet.
Hope we're still gonna be nice to each other though."
LOL...No doubt. You made me cuss a blue streak yesterday and I had to repent. But, you failed to mention that there are two clinics in "very black" Baltimore.
Are you going to be available for the podcast if we do it on WED 2/4?
"But, you failed to mention that there are two clinics in "very black" Baltimore."
One is actually in Towson.
Yeah, Wednesday 2/4 is fine.
Looking forward to it.
"You made me cuss a blue streak yesterday."
I just love a spunky black woman.
I thought what killed black babies was poverty and living in the environment of the product of poverty.
"# A baby born in Washington, D.C. is almost two-and-a-half times more likely to die before age one than a baby born in Vermont. African American babies are more than twice as likely to die before age one than either white or Latino babies.
- http://measureofamerica.org/2008-2009-report/factoids/
- But hey, I guess those moms did the right by bringing them into the world. Smart move.
"Again I ask UptownSteve...Should the government sponsor abortion?"
Yes, ecause we ALL wind up paying for it in one way or another when a child is born to someone too young to handle raising a kid.
"You made me cuss a blue streak yesterday."
I just love a spunky black woman.
[grinning at uptown steve in agreement]
Brotherkomrade
You are very cool.
Great post.
Thank you, sir!
CBW,
Thank you for your comments on my blog. You will always be welcomed over at black sapience.
Respectfully, I believe that abortion is a wonderful alternative to Foster care, open Child and Family services cases, and abuse. The governement should be more than willing to subsidize abortions for people who niether want children, can afford to that care of them, or just the fertile who KNOW they should never produce children.
Adoption almost NEVER happens for our children and Foster care, in many cases, sets children up for abuse. Having less children makes parents more financially solvent... unless they make more than 250K per year.
BTW, thanks for the prayers... and I would NEVER EVER consider you a chick... you're a woman. *smile*
So BlkSeaGoat, let me get this straight, I should've been aborted. But wait I was adopted! But I thought that never happened to Black children! Not only that I was epileptic! So where are you getting your stats that Black children are almost never adopted? In fact, there are plenty of Black couples just waiting to adopt Black children. Blacks adopt children at much higher rate than Whites! So you obviously haven't a clue what you are talking about!
So you think because my birth mother was less than stellar material and because I don't have this bling bling action going that I should be dead and my son should be dead. Neither of us deserve life because we come from poor parents. Oh by the way, my birth mother was White because I am tired of hearing of how Black mothers are just so screwed up.
How about this guy, should he have been aborted? He comes from a broken home, his father abandons him, his mother raises him for some time and then takes off to some foreign country leaving him to be raised by his grandmother. He has brothers and sisters he hardly knows. An aunt living on welfare. But somehow he muddles through. Should he be aborted? Well you just aborted Barack Obama! And as much as I thoroughly dislike the man, still don't wish abortion on him! Too bad you can't do the same for me and my son.
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No, Black-n-Right!
BLK said that Obama should have been aborted. A struggling single - impoverished - women that should have gone to college and started a career before having children.
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2009/01/wow-what-powerful-video-good-job.html
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Planned Parenthood was founded by a neo-nazi, Margaret Sanger, who had a Nazi doctor write articles (yes, from Germany) for her newsletter. She mentioned in her autobiography that:
"I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered."
(http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2008/03/six-quotes-hint-why-marget-sanger.html)
How come all the racists end up being liberal Democrats... Byrd, the South, the Supreme Court when they ruled on the Dred-Scott case... how come they were all Democrats?
How come the KKK hit-cards that were printed and handed out were of 50 black Republicans and 13 whites... was it because the KKK (remember, Byrd was a Grand-Wizard and recruiter - Democrat) were all Democrats?
(http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2008/09/kkk-hit-list-card.html)
~ "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.
"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.Margaret Sanger. "
The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5
(http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/2008/03/six-quotes-hint-why-marget-sanger.html)
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And like lemmings, you liberals (speaking here to any black liberals) follow the racist attitudes to your demise. Here I commend the Conservative Black persons here to be proud of your full quiver, and be happy that you were not a statistic!
Behold, children are a gift of the LORD,
The fruit of the womb is a reward.
Like arrows in the hand of a warrior,
So are the children of one's youth.
How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them;
They will not be ashamed
When they speak with their enemies in the gate.
(Psalm 127:3-5 NASB)
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Oh... I feel I have to be culturally sensitive here -- "Word!"
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Exactly Papa Giorgio -- Word...
The Word of God that is.
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