Black Diaspora~ I should have clarified the only reason for ME (CBW) to vote for Obama is because he is black. But I certainly think that Obama's "blackness" played a part in Colin Powell's decision to endorse him since he views him as a "transformative figure". What praytell, is transformative about Obama and his extremely liberal views except that fact that he is a black liberal? The DNC ensured his nomination by neglecting to properly vet him because they knew that a charismatic black man is exactly what they need to get in the white house.
Let me say first that I have a healthy respect for those in our midst that swim against the current.
I think that I can fairly say that that's what a black conservative is. And a black woman conservative--you're practically in a class all your own.
You say that Obama has "extremely liberal views." Would his views be more palatable if he merely had "liberal views"?
I'm not trying to be contentious, just sincerely interested in your point of view.
A democrat, by definition, is a "liberal," just as a republican, by definition is a "conservative."
I know: there are various shades within those categories.
Of late, many white conservatives have elected to endorse Obama--and they're neither black nor liberal.
I believe that it's the Palin factor that is the primary reason why C. Powell endorsed Obama, despite his stated respect for her.
Also, I believe that Powell respects a woman's right to choose, and is concerned that the next president will have the opportunity to nominate a couple more Supreme Court Associate Justices and, if that president is a republican, it would tip the balance towards a conservative majority, potentially threatening the existence of Roe v. Wade.
Truthfully, Palin, in my opinion, is not up to the task of filling presidential shoes should some calamity befall McCain.
And that his slogan is Country First is all the more ironic that he selected Palin to be a heart attack away from the seat of presidential power.
Clearly his decision was political first and country last.
Again, I respect your ideology, although I find it flawed, and I, as do many other blacks, find the term, black conservative, to be paradoxical and inexplicable.
I will return to read up on your evolving conservative views of your world. But I probably won't attempt to change your conservative outlook.
That would be inexcusably presumptuous of me.
You see, I don't necessarily feel a liberal point of view is superior to a conservative point of view, or vice versa.
It is what it is.
I see the world more in light of what works or doesn't work, given what it is we say we want.
For me, at this moment, in light of what I say I want, the liberal view works better.
Black Diaspora~I don't view your earnest inquiry as contentious and I appreciate the fact the you would even visit a blog labeled conservative black woman. There are several reasons that I ultimately decided not to vote for Barack Obama in the general election (I did vote for him in the primaries although I was not entirely at peace with that decision).
I guess I should explain that my faith in Jesus Christ informs my world view so I'm put off by Sen. Obama's position on life issues not so much that he is pro-choice but he voted 4 times against legislation to prohibit late term abortion and he voted to lift the ban on partial birth abortion and that is extreme.
I'm also troubled that he was a part of Jeremiah Wrights church for 20 years -- I'm just not sure how a Christian can listen to black liberation theology for 20 years-- I can bearly sit through an 11:00 service at Union Temple (a popular church in DC which espouses BLT). I am grateful for black activism I just don't think that church is a platform for it. So these are just a few reason that I think he is too liberal for my tastes.
Beyond that I have no love for the democratic party. I believe the democratic party delights in keeping black folks uninformed and dependent. The Dems don't give a hoot about our schools, crime, poverty or any of the social blights of Black people they just use us to garner votes and I will not comply.
For the record, I'm not crazy about McCain but I don't trust Obama and I don't think that Obama would be the lesser of two evils. and I have posted at least 30 blogs explaining why.
I am still a work in progress Black Diaspora, I want to see black folks think critically and not monolithically, I want us to rise up from the bottom of almost ever demographic. Unfortnately, I think our focus misplaced as a people.
I am still a work in progress Black Diaspora, I want to see black folks think critically and not monolithically, I want us to rise up from the bottom of almost ever demographic. Unfortunately, I think our focus misplaced as a people.
I respect your positions and your candor. Thanks for sharing them with me.
I believe that you're also sincere in your wish to have blacks improve their lot in life.
In that we're in agreement.
As I write this, Barack Obama has already been elected President Elect.
The Dems don't give a hoot about our schools, crime, poverty or any of the social blights of Black people they just use us to garner votes and I will not comply.
National party politics--that is, politics at the congressional and presidential levels--can only legislate mandated directions, and perhaps fund some of those mandates.
Take the No Child Left Behind law. According to some teachers, it is a good law (not all agree, of course). The problem with it, I'm told, is that it was underfunded, or not funded at all.
My point: improving schools, ending poverty, and crime, are almost exclusively local problems that require local solutions.
I would like to see a local confluence of resources--people and money--to strive toward a resolution of these seemingly perennial problems.
If there's a role for the federal government in this effort, then it should participate. Otherwise it should leave the task to those closest to the problem.
McCain's motto was Country First. A better motto would have been People First.
Country and people are not always synonymous.
We need solid solutions to these problems with the awareness that people (educated and working) are our greatest resource, and We the People should act accordingly.
Black bloggers--conservative and liberal--can be powerful weapons in our communities to change them for the better.
What we need are strong, viable coalitions dedicated to the betterment of our various black communities.
That will be my goal during this next administration and beyond.
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Is that the only reason Colin Powell is voting for Obama--because he's black?
Black Diaspora~
I should have clarified the only reason for ME (CBW) to vote for Obama is because he is black. But I certainly think that Obama's "blackness" played a part in Colin Powell's decision to endorse him since he views him as a "transformative figure". What praytell, is transformative about Obama and his extremely liberal views except that fact that he is a black liberal? The DNC ensured his nomination by neglecting to properly vet him because they knew that a charismatic black man is exactly what they need to get in the white house.
Let me say first that I have a healthy respect for those in our midst that swim against the current.
I think that I can fairly say that that's what a black conservative is. And a black woman conservative--you're practically in a class all your own.
You say that Obama has "extremely liberal views." Would his views be more palatable if he merely had "liberal views"?
I'm not trying to be contentious, just sincerely interested in your point of view.
A democrat, by definition, is a "liberal," just as a republican, by definition is a "conservative."
I know: there are various shades within those categories.
Of late, many white conservatives have elected to endorse Obama--and they're neither black nor liberal.
I believe that it's the Palin factor that is the primary reason why C. Powell endorsed Obama, despite his stated respect for her.
Also, I believe that Powell respects a woman's right to choose, and is concerned that the next president will have the opportunity to nominate a couple more Supreme Court Associate Justices and, if that president is a republican, it would tip the balance towards a conservative majority, potentially threatening the existence of Roe v. Wade.
Truthfully, Palin, in my opinion, is not up to the task of filling presidential shoes should some calamity befall McCain.
And that his slogan is Country First is all the more ironic that he selected Palin to be a heart attack away from the seat of presidential power.
Clearly his decision was political first and country last.
Again, I respect your ideology, although I find it flawed, and I, as do many other blacks, find the term, black conservative, to be paradoxical and inexplicable.
I will return to read up on your evolving conservative views of your world. But I probably won't attempt to change your conservative outlook.
That would be inexcusably presumptuous of me.
You see, I don't necessarily feel a liberal point of view is superior to a conservative point of view, or vice versa.
It is what it is.
I see the world more in light of what works or doesn't work, given what it is we say we want.
For me, at this moment, in light of what I say I want, the liberal view works better.
Black Diaspora~I don't view your earnest inquiry as contentious and I appreciate the fact the you would even visit a blog labeled conservative black woman. There are several reasons that I ultimately decided not to vote for Barack Obama in the general election (I did vote for him in the primaries although I was not entirely at peace with that decision).
I guess I should explain that my faith in Jesus Christ informs my world view so I'm put off by Sen. Obama's position on life issues not so much that he is pro-choice but he voted 4 times against legislation to prohibit late term abortion and he voted to lift the ban on partial birth abortion and that is extreme.
I'm also troubled that he was a part of Jeremiah Wrights church for 20 years -- I'm just not sure how a Christian can listen to black liberation theology for 20 years-- I can bearly sit through an 11:00 service at Union Temple (a popular church in DC which espouses BLT). I am grateful for black activism I just don't think that church is a platform for it. So these are just a few reason that I think he is too liberal for my tastes.
Beyond that I have no love for the democratic party. I believe the democratic party delights in keeping black folks uninformed and dependent. The Dems don't give a hoot about our schools, crime, poverty or any of the social blights of Black people they just use us to garner votes and I will not comply.
For the record, I'm not crazy about McCain but I don't trust Obama and I don't think that Obama would be the lesser of two evils. and I have posted at least 30 blogs explaining why.
I am still a work in progress Black Diaspora, I want to see black folks think critically and not monolithically, I want us to rise up from the bottom of almost ever demographic. Unfortnately, I think our focus misplaced as a people.
I am still a work in progress Black Diaspora, I want to see black folks think critically and not monolithically, I want us to rise up from the bottom of almost ever demographic. Unfortunately, I think our focus misplaced as a people.
I respect your positions and your candor. Thanks for sharing them with me.
I believe that you're also sincere in your wish to have blacks improve their lot in life.
In that we're in agreement.
As I write this, Barack Obama has already been elected President Elect.
The Dems don't give a hoot about our schools, crime, poverty or any of the social blights of Black people they just use us to garner votes and I will not comply.
National party politics--that is, politics at the congressional and presidential levels--can only legislate mandated directions, and perhaps fund some of those mandates.
Take the No Child Left Behind law. According to some teachers, it is a good law (not all agree, of course). The problem with it, I'm told, is that it was underfunded, or not funded at all.
My point: improving schools, ending poverty, and crime, are almost exclusively local problems that require local solutions.
I would like to see a local confluence of resources--people and money--to strive toward a resolution of these seemingly perennial problems.
If there's a role for the federal government in this effort, then it should participate. Otherwise it should leave the task to those closest to the problem.
McCain's motto was Country First. A better motto would have been People First.
Country and people are not always synonymous.
We need solid solutions to these problems with the awareness that people (educated and working) are our greatest resource, and We the People should act accordingly.
Black bloggers--conservative and liberal--can be powerful weapons in our communities to change them for the better.
What we need are strong, viable coalitions dedicated to the betterment of our various black communities.
That will be my goal during this next administration and beyond.
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