## Sunday, May 1, 2011

### Response to Jina a Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chaser...

I received the comment below from a reader in response to the blog post Thank You Mr. President For Finally Releasing Your Long Form Birth Certificate:
Wow...you are a pathetic idiot. This man has nothing to hide. The only reason he waited so long was not to legitimize people who tried to claim he wasn't a real American. The funny thing is that with all the documents and witnesses Obama will be able to get, there are still many in this world who will not believe he is a true American because at the end of the day he is black.

Bottom line, if his mother is a U.S citizen and he was born in the U.S, he is a U.S citizen. You are legitimizing the claims of people who would never vouch for your BLACK @ boo boo. Unfortunately this is not your cause. Are you one of those idiots who believe that a man who graduated in the top 5% of his class at Harvard didn't deserve to be there too? If you were a truly educated women you would have already had some form of experience with the above mention racism in college or high school. And please don't tell me that you're one of those blacks that decry Affirmative Action.

It's a shame that we have so many black people criticizing a black person who is trying to do positive things. Please don't start saying race doesn't matter and I'll vote and think w/o race in mind, because at the end of the day this affects you and your children. It is disadvantageous for you as a black woman not consider race, because at the end of the day most people will consider race when they consider you.

How the black community reacts to Pres.Barack Obama affects how much the larger community feels they can REVEAL about how they feel about Obama. It would be nice to live in a world where blacks could be differentiated, but that is sadly not the case, and the success of this presidency has implications for the obstacles faced in front of blacks in the generations to come.

People complain, but overall if you were to list everything he has done over these few years you would see a very massive list with practically everything he had promised to do. Don't project your hate and issues with black men and women on our president. Get over your daddy issues see things objectively.

I suspect that you are one of those blacks that felt they never meshed with blacks around them. And you've decided to mesh with a group of whites within an ideology that uses you as little more than a tool and a puppet, that would have little use for you if we didn't have a black president or you were no longer willing to stick to the script(i.e. Michael Steele). Whites love a good black-on-black squabble, and you are really pleasing them right now."
April 30, 2011 10:34 AM
Because I don't have time to respond individually to the same indictments and because my response was too long for the comment section of my blog, I'm posting my response here. So I invite all of you Obama Lovin' folks to read this and think twice before wasting your time and mine with inane ad hominem attacks.

^@Jina~Please know that I am exercising every ounce of restraint I can't muster to refrain from acting like you -- A COMPLETE FOOL & verbally\digitally assassinating your black posterior.

I find it fascinating how you conclude that I'm a pathetic idiot because I don't pledge blind allegiance to Obama because he is a black(ish) man. This speaks more to your low frequency of intellectual activity than it does to mine. Not one of you Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chasers who have commented in this tread has dared address the posted article -- Why is that? Because your are just plain dense!!! Cognitively dissonant is what you are. You write: "It's a shame that we have so many black people criticizing a black person who is trying to do positive things.
Really? Like what? Please expound on this for me? As far as I can tell he is like Bush on steroids. I'm honestly confounded as to why Republicans don't love this blood thirsty war monger.
You also write:"Bottom line, if his mother is a U.S citizen and he was born in the U.S, he is a U.S citizen." You couldn't be more wrong. First of all "Boo-Boo"  (isn't that what you called me?)the fool, there is a difference between a Natural Born Citizen and a Naturalized citizen. If you had read the article or gleened any intelligence other than the Tom Joyner Morning Show or The Steve Harvey Show you would know this (dumb ass). Obama touts that he is a Constitutional scholar and as such surely he was aware that because of Article II, Section I, Paragraph 5 (Presidential Clause)of the Constitution his eligibility would be questioned. Why, because the definition of Natural Born Citizen is obscure. Secondly, your "positive" president was adopted as a minor by Lolo Sotero (which is why he went by the name of Barry Sotero)and there was no dual citizenship allowed in Indonesia at the time that he moved there. As I mention in the blog post which you clearly didn't read, a parent can't terminate the citizenship of a minor but this still doesn't hold mustard because
the Nationality Act of 1940, revised 1952, Section 318(a) states, “A former citizen of the United States expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents and who has not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents may be naturalized upon filing a petition for naturalization before reaching age of Twenty-Five [25] years and upon compliance with all requirements of the naturalization laws with the following exceptions:  (b) No former citizen of the United States, expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents shall be obliged to comply with the requirements of the immigration laws, if he has not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents, and if he has come or shall come to the United States before reaching the age of twenty-five years. (c) After his naturalization such person shall have the same citizenship status as if he had not been expatriated.”
Well guess what? Your black(ish) president renewed his Indonesian Passport after the age of 18 which is an affirmative act, as he had to swear allegiance to another Country (Indonesia) in order to obtained the renew passport.  Obama renewed his Indonesian Passport when he traveled to Pakistan that is why he had to stop in Indonesia first.  Remember, in 1981, his White mama (funny how you racism chasers keep forgetting that he had one of those) was divorcing Soetoro in Hawaii and was not in Indonesia.  Obama admits to traveling to Indonesia first and then onto Pakistan.  Obama claims in his book Dreams from My Father that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mother.  But again, his mother was not in Indonesia, she was in Hawaii  divorcing Lolo Soetoro (see her passport records courtesy of your stupid compatriot "Old School Oldies" who thought she was "educating me" by posting a link to it in the comment tread....lol)  In addition, the State Department has stated in response to a FOIA [Freedom of Information] request that they do not have a U.S. Passport application on file for Barack H. Obama.” So your Boi is a liar!!!

So, Jina before you come on this tread and try to indict me -- Get your damn facts straight!!! Ok?

Finally and for the record -- I have no "Daddy" issues. Don't project the dysfunction of your personal life onto me. Neither do I seek knowledge and truth for the benefit of "white people love". I have an incredibly loving family (all of whom are black) and it is their love and approval that matters to me. In fact, it is precisely because of this love and support that I don't have to pledge blind allegiance to dishonorable, deceitful, dishonest, evasive, fork-tongued, rogue black politicians and most especially black(ish) politicians simply because they are black or black(ish). I am free enough and secure enough in my person to evaluate people on the content of their character. Hopefully, one day you will be woman enough to do the same.

P.S. I forgot about this little comment of yours"Are you one of those idiots who believe that a man who graduated in the top 5% of his class at Harvard didn't deserve to be there too? No, I'm an informed free opinionated conservative black woman, mother, wife, daughter (of two parents who lived together in the same home until death parted them) who believes Obama when he says “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide”. He hasn't released his academic records, so I ask you Einstien --What's he hiding? I'm old enough to know Cupcake that there is entirely too much smoke (and mirrors) around this man for there to be no fire.

Ron B said...

Wow CBW! Glad you used some restraint! But good response. However, you did not counter her point that he graduated in the top 5% of his class at Harvard as his college transcripts are off limits.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Thanks Ron, good looking out. I just added a response to that on the original post.

Jina said...

@conservative black woman
You're so hilarious. Not only do you take the time to write a response to me at one in the morning, but you also write a full blog post. My post obviously did not bother you....lol

What do you really think Barack Obama has to hide? What is going on in your impressionable little mind?

Barack Obama is a U.S Citizen....
You my dear are a old and dusty puppet..And I did not get that knowledge from Steve Harvey, Tom Joyner, my blind faith with the liberals or my "bois". It's funny how you are trying to "ghettoize" my opinions, something whites of your party would quickly do to yours if you ever challenged them. Doing this will not in any way make you closer to them or distance you from the black population. It will only make you look foolish.

I'm really getting sick of you complainers who offer absolutely zero solutions to the black community. If you believe that the black community is generally the same, and is generally bad, what else do you have to discuss. Stop pretending like you have something new to offer to the table, stop pretending that what you say hasn't already been said--and actually be a part of the changes that you would like to be made. A terrible stereotype about blacks is that we are incapable of working successfully with others, including members of our own group. There are members of our group that would just like things to be as they are just so they could have someone to complain about, someone to look down on(i.e you).

Most conservative blacks, and even most conservatives such as Michelle Bachmann and Jan Brewer have acknowledged that Obama is a citizen. Why are you so susceptible to lies? Did people demand George Bush's transcript and birth certificate, or any other of the 40+ other presidents transcripts or birth certificates? No they did not. What is wrong with you not to see what is going on here?

Even if Obama had straights F's on his transcripts, there are still gaps. How did he get into Columbia with a >2.0 g.p.a, how did he graduate magna cum laude from Harvard, how did he become the first black president of the Harvard law review, how did he get jobs offers at top firms and how did he become the first black president of the U.S? I doubt that anyone who has done these things couldn't have gone to Harvard or other Ivies not based on merit unless he was some billionaire's son--maybe Trump is his real father. "The blacks" and most people of modest means do not just have these sorts of things handed to them. lol

I'm not trying to force you to accept Obama's policies, I honestly do not agree with every single one. But what is the use of accepting racially based lies about his background. Not accepting his policies may not be disadvantageous to you, but allowing these lies to circulate on your blog will be disadvantageous to you and generations to come in the long run. To me, your naivety and hatred of Obama reflects a deeper issue..

P.S. Taking a picture with a random white dude's back behind you does not signal upper class status. Lol I see that you have the "two parents" and kid, but no mention of the HUSBAND. Jealousy and projection indeed....

lajina said...

“The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide”. He hasn't released his academic records, so I ask you Einstien --What's he hiding? I'm old enough to know Cupcake that there is entirely too much smoke (and mirrors) around this man for there to be no fire."

OBAMA IS FROM THE FIRE. OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST! His last name has six letters. His big ears transform into horns. He had six teachers a year for his six years of schooling. His final percentages total 666%. He graduated 6/6/1986. Lol.

You knee-grow. You are really trying to improve your relationship with Donald Trump huh? The only reason some people (really racist whites) want him to show his transcript is to attempt to reactivate a debate about Affirmative Action, and again you are taking yourself off the pickanniny puppet shelf to side with them. I know you have had no experience at elite colleges, because if you did you could have already anticipated this and would not be responding with such foolishness. President or not if anyone questioned my ability to enter a top school, let alone be a true American I would have some qualms about responding to them. 99.9% of the people who question his entrance into ivies, could not have not done it themselves. Your ignorant self probably benefited from Affirmative Action.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Jina~I'm no longer indulging your "crazy"...but reading is fundamental I said I was a "wife" which donotes that I have a husband. In fact, my anniversary is 4/29 so we celebrated last night which is why I didn't get around to responding to your monkey ass until 1 am. I had to take care of my HUSBAND, once his stomach was full, and both of our needs met I decided to "grace" you with a response.

Since you are clearly incapable of engaging me based on the content of my blog posts do us both a favor and stop reading it...oh wait you don't read it. Do us both a favor and stop visiting the site. You add nothing.

What a complex you have? Get some help Boo-Boo (the fool)...lol.

Jina said...

Bottom line: If people are questioning how one of the most educated and powerful black (not blackish) people in America deserved to go to a top college, they are also questioning how you as a normal black American could ever deserve to go to a top college. You should take issue with that. Call it over generalization if you want to--I didn't invent these rules, but they are the rules in America.

Jina said...

You are not indulging "in my crazy" because you have no way of countering it. Lol

3 minutes to respond to my post lol, couldn't you pretend to have things to do. Thats how I know you don't have a man.

I'll engage you on whatever I want, read whatever I want and write whatever I want. You obviously are showing little restraint in responding to me. What I have to say is obviously bothering you.

Conservative Black Woman said...
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Conservative Black Woman said...

Jina writes:

"3 minutes to respond to my post lol, couldn't you pretend to have things to do. Thats how I know you don't have a man"

Jina~Why are you so obsessed with whether or not I have a man and how I spend my time? My name is Robin Elizabeth Carter Martin, my husband's name is Troy DeWayne Martin we were married in Arlington, Virginia. Go to public records in that county and put your mind at ease.

Pretend to have something to do? Yes, quite honestly you are bothering me. I don't understand the source of your wrath? I don't understand what makes you think I'm upperclass? lol...it would be nice but that's hardly the case.
I wonder why you believe that because I question Obama's lack of transparency that I have daddy issues, no husband, and need the approval of white people? Do you see how random and crazy that is?

You write:"I'm really getting sick of you complainers who offer absolutely zero solutions to the black community." Whose complaining? What "black community"? The one you live in? (LOL, that wasn't nice -- I'm sorry--lol). I'm not complaining about the "black community" I'm questioning the intellectual curiosity and integrity of plantation Negroes like you. I believe that there is a segment of Black Americans who need to stop looking externally for answers to their problems, stop listening to community "mis"leaders and begin to engage in activities that lead to success.

You write:"Even if Obama had straights F's on his transcripts, there are still gaps. How did he get into Columbia with a >2.0 g.p.a, how did he graduate magna cum laude from Harvard, how did he become the first black president of the Harvard law review, how did he get jobs offers at top firms and how did he become the first black president of the U.S?"

This is how: Our government is corrupt, the left\right, Democrat\Republican construct is a farce, a joke an illusion. This country has become a corporate fascist oligarchy run by the CFR, Trilateral Commission and elite international bankers. They dictate who will be President. Obama as was Bush, Clinton, Bush (Sr), Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon as far back as 1913 are only puppets. Hand-picked spokespersons, fall guys. Do some research Cupcake and when you get smart -- hit me back.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Lajina~When you respond to MY words. I'll respond to you. I can only deal with one silly woman this weekend and Jina beat ya to the punch.

Jina said...

You don't like what I write and delete it? How un-American, let me see your birth certificate.

Robert said...

Jina:

How do you feel about this first black president partcipating in an illegal assassination attempt in Libya that resulted in the deaths of children?

Robert said...

Also Jina:

Why should I not believe the chairman of the New Black Panther Party who said that Obama "represents the white man"?

Conservative Black Woman said...

"You don't like what I write and delete it? How un-American, let me see your birth certificate."

What the hell? I deleted my own comment, ass-wipe.(Yep, restraint be damned I'm ready to bust your azz (lol)).The last thing I would do is delete your comments, I want to archive the pathology of black folks like you who deem themselves "conscious". (But for the record, you don't run this blog -- I Do!!!) If I ever decide to delete an entry believe me there would be no "re-posting" you ass would be banned.

Regarding your third point -- I did answer that. WHAT IS HE HIDING? But since you are slow, let me spell it out for you. I don't really care about his grades!!!! I just wonder why he will not release his transcript. Bush did!!! That's how you Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Racism Chasers know how stupid he was!!!

Watch this Video (if you dare):
http://youtu.be/yGfEzLlcO_s

His own words!!!!! Yet he spends millions to suppress this information? If you don't find this curious then like I said you are afflicted with Cognitive Dissonance.

Oh yes, my "hoodrat" tendencies actually would have prevented me from admitting that your bother me. But I assure you that I will not lose any sleep over it.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Jina~What is the URL of your blog? I'd like to "re-educate" your followers...lol

Jina said...

THE ONUS IS ON YOU, AS A CHALLENGER, AND YOU ARE NOT PROVIDING ANY INFORMATION TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS. PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT HE IS NOT A NATURAL CITIZEN, I CAN LOOK AT THE CONSTITUTION. SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN. SHOW EVIDENCE THAT HE SPENT MILLIONS TO SUPPRESS INFO. IF YOU DON'T SHOW EVIDENCE, I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE SPEWING OUT B.S THAT YOUR HANDLERS TOLD YOU. LOL

WHY DO YOU THINK HE WILL NOT RELEASE HIS TRANSCRIPT AND WHAT(!!) DO YOU THINK HE WAS HIDING WHEN CHOSE NOT TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE? I DON'T ASK YOU IF YOU THINK HE IS HIDING SOMETHING, I ASKED YOU WHAT. IF YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSEDLY NOT CONCERNED ABOUT HIS GRADES, WHY SHOULD HE CHOOSE TO RELEASE HIS TRANSCRIPT, WHY DO YOU WANT HIM TO RELEASE HIS TRANSCRIPT? YOU ARE NOT MAKING SENSE. AND BY THE WAY BUSH DID NOT RELEASE HIS TRANSCRIPT, IT WAS LEAKED.

LETS SEE HOW OBJECTIVELY YOU ABLE TO RESPOND LOL

Jina said...

YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN'T BE ANGRY YOU! HE GOT OSAMA!

Anonymous said...

Ms. Martin,
I admire your courage to speak out for your beliefs. I am white and I remember as a child the differences between the Democratic and the Republican parties back then. I have never understood why Black people would cling to the Democrats after the way the Dems treated them, especially during the time of the Civil Rights Movement. My high school students were shocked to learn recently that it was the Republican party that helped to pass the Civil Right Laws not the Democrats. Nobody studies history any more.

I don't support President Obama and his policies and I am so afraid of where he is leading our country. It has nothing to do with skin color. I do support Allen West and Herman Cain. In one of your most recent blogs, you said that our presidents are picked not elected. I have been afraid of that for years. I hope you are wrong. If Obama was picked, then someone other than just him is trying to bring our country to her knees. There are many that I suspect.

Sincerely,
Donna B.
Houston, Texas

Jina said...

TURN ON THE NEWS DONNA FROM TEXAS AND LOOK AT THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE U.S SPEAK! IF HE IS NOT REELECTED AMERICA IS NOT WORTH LIVING IN! WHAT ELSE COULD AMERICANS WANT MORE?

Robert said...

Jina:

Again, why did Obama participate in an illegal assassination attempt of the head of state of Libya which resulted in the deaths of his grandchildren and his son?

ar said...

Anonymous to Mrs. Martin, How refreshing; an inquiring mind. The depth of which you are about to enter is staggering. Buckle-up.

I've spent the last two years, only, researching the type questions you pose and CBW is absolutely correct in her statements about "who's in charge" 'round here.

Don't believe her but go do the reading yourself; it's there to read and all the things that are going on presently can be found in those researches but Fear No Man. Fear God. They are true. We have been lied to and it's time to wake from the slumber induced upon us.

Jina and all... come out of the fear you have for the truth. You were lied to like everyone else has been lied to. I just found it out myself and it has taken two years, and still going, to come to grips with it.

Agreeing with this - Entity in washington - indicates a lot of people have been duped because the constitution, for one, has been trampled under foot and run up my hind-end. Communist are all over the place and our leader of the country flips us his birth certificate? Donald McTrump? What planet am I on?

There's madness in washington, The Emperor Has NO Clothes On, while you are Silent about it. You think he's taking us places? Oh, honey you have no idea what's 'round the bend. Time-to-pull-head-out-of-sand-and-open-eyes, K?

(Bushes and Bin Ladins own Oil fields TOGETHER - "we just killed Osama Bin Laughin' his ass off at you") Hello, planet Earth to Jina, planet Earth to jina, come in, come in. Is anyone out there?

Conservative Black Woman said...

@Robert~This says it all about Obama and his murderous tirade this weekend.

He's spineless and shameless, except when his masters unleash him on people of color. Then he becomes a pit bull--a real life Sambo/Quimbo doing the dirty work of Simon Legree. TPTB (the powers that be) knew exactly what they were doing when they "selected" Obama to manage their psychopathocracy. - Makheru Bradley

@Donna~I'm glad you enjoy the blog and thank you for the encouragement. But going down the Rabbit Hole of Truth is quite an adventure. Not for the faint or weak at heart.

@Jina~You are just BLACK NOISE at this point and shall be duly ignored going forward. I've stooped to new lows dealing with you.

Ziggy said...

1."I'm really getting sick of you complainers who offer absolutely zero solutions to the black community."

Funny that she sees the conservative as the complainer. Not the ones who cry racism and injustice at every turn, whether justified or not. It's scary that people are waiting for solutions to the problem. The solution is an individual commitment to excellence and biblical morality. That is the cure for the mess that the "community" finds itself in. The "problem" is solved individually. No collectivist action is going to solve the problem.

2."If you believe that the black community is generally the same, and is generally bad, what else do you have to discuss."

No. Conservatives do not believe that the black community is all the same. That belief lies with the liberal-by-default black people that can't tolerate other blacks who don't fall in line with the common line of thinking about "blackness". Conservatives believe in individuals: individual responsibility, individual excellence, individual results, individual liberty. What else is there to discuss about black America? When people who think like you keep raising the issues and complaints over and over,but reject the cure? What else will there be to discuss? What else do you have to discuss?

3."Stop pretending like you have something new to offer to the table, stop pretending that what you say hasn't already been said--and actually be a part of the changes that you would like to be made."

No, they isn't any "new" thing to offer, just the same plain, sensible advice that too many keep ignoring, and dismissing as "Uncle-Tomming,"selling out" "self-hate" you know, all the usual stuff that gets tossed out. No need to be about the change, change doesn't happen through some great collectivist action. Individuals make the difference. The problems that you realize need a solution is accomplished by individual actions.

4. "A terrible stereotype about blacks is that we are incapable of working successfully with others, including members of our own group."

Shall we add this to the never-ending list of unfair stereotypes about black people, or is this your acknowledgment of problematic behavior by black people that you are ashamed of? This sounds very self-conscious. Please don't atribute your own realizations off on white people or others as "stereotyping".

5. "There are members of our group that would just like things to be as they are just so they could have someone to complain about, someone to look down on(i.e you)."

No. Those people are you, and the so-called leaders of the community who use people like you to focus on racism, and injustice so that they can build a platform for prestige and wealth for themselves. They know you are weak- minded, dishonest with your selves, prone to blame others, lacking the confidence,discipline,courage, knowledge, and wisdom it takes to live a productive life without depending on gov't handouts. They want people like you or those who can only feel and not think logically to continue on this path so that they can acquire a power base for themselves. That base is you.
Please know this: Anyone who feels the need to remind you over and over that people hate you, and in fact, live to keep you down,and encourage you to keep looking backwards to an ugly past over and over again, is trying to keep you under their control for their own evil purposes. The person who tells you that you should stand on your own, don't need anyone's help,
live morally, make the right decisions, think for yourself...that's the person you should listen to. The latter is what conservatives and black conservatives is saying.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]there are still many in this world who will not believe he is a true American because at the end of the day he is black. [/quote]

Jina:

Can I ask you a question?

As you attempt to project your own BLACK INFERIORITIES upon President Barack Obama - imagining that by him showing his BIRTH CERTIFICATE - he is made to be like a Black man in the hood, spread eagle upon the hood of a police car and forced to show ID........................

did it HIT YOU when:

1) The KLANSMAN Donald Trump was an INVITED GUEST to a dinner in which the BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES was the featured guest? When Obama verbally insulted Trump from the podium - UNLIKE THE PAST - had Trump decided to get up and beat the BLACK MAN with his CANE - the SECRET SERVICE WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM, A WHITE MAN DEAD!!!!!

2) (This is even better Jina) - This Black man as COMMANDER IN CHIEF who White Conservatives don't respect because of their RACISM - just used his POWER to assassinate another Man - NOT because he was a threat to Obama PERSONALLY but because Osama Bin Laden was a threat to the NATION - and as PRESIDENT this Black man gets to DECIDE how the NATION will respond.

IS THIS AN INFERIOR BLACK MAN Jina?

3) Worst of all - Today BOMBS ARE FALLING ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA. In addition to US Predator drones - ordered by Obama - he is paired with former COLONIAL OPPRESSORS - Italy, France and THE UNITED KINGDOM - dropping bombs on a sovereign nation.

Jina - do you see that while it may be true that "DOMESTIC NEGROES" like yourself who LIVE VICARIOUSLY through "Obama's Oppression" suffered at the hands of RACIST WHITE REPUBLICANS bothers you so..............when we get past YOUR ISSUES and consider how comfortably he is fitting into the seat of AMERICAN IMPERIALIST POWER - it is YOU who needs to look at YOURSELF and start asking questions. Obama is doing just fine without your emotional CONNECTION

Anonymous said...

It's interesting to the response to the fact, that Obama is not qualified to be President. He is a US citizen, but not "Natural Born" citizen. According to the all interpretations of "Natural Born". Both parents have to be citizens of the US. Obama Sr. was a British subject. I have no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii. That's not the problem. The problem is his fathers nationality, BRITISH SUBJECT! He is not eligible to be President. It is so easy to get sucked into all the other crap that talkingheads throw out. Don't fall for their crap and keep up the great work you are doing.