Friday, July 10, 2009

The Truth Is Out There


I received two rather disturbing emails this morning from two of my very good friends. The first one said:

"If you are going to talk about negative SHIT about my President. Then take me off your email list.Thank you and I still love You,
S***** W*****"
A President Barack Obama Supporter"
-- she wasn't kidding.

the second said:

"Dag, Robin I can't understand why you are so anti black. Did you get dropped on your head when you was a baby? Lol"-- the "lol" aside he wasn't kidding either. (This was written in response to a joke I made about Barack Obama not being present at Michael Jackson's funeral because he couldn't think of a way to blame it on George Bush--well I thought it was funny)

I've tried at length to explain why I feel the way that I do to my friends to no avail. How I can't reconcile his policy with my faith. How I feel that his policy will negatively impact this country and therefore Black folks will necessarily negatively impact Black folks since we are Americans too. A fellow blogger Malcolm Kirkpatrick commented that "Obama worship is self-love" and it occurred to me that if to those who KNOW me feel that I hate myself because I don't support Obama then to them to love Barack Obama is to love themselves...that's sick on so many different levels. However, Digital Publius brilliantly deconstructs this curious phenomena that is at play in my world as my friends have fallen into the Obama snare he writes:

The truth is indeed out there, if you are inclined towards it, it can be found. The problem is not that the truth is or is not knowable, but rather that it is so often ignored when it conflicts with ones deeply held ideologies. This is the case often, when you endeavor to hold civil discourse with those that lean more towards their ideologies than reality and who are committed to remaking the world into a reflection of those ideologies despite the truth. This is how I would define the average liberal.
Interestingly enough, not all Democrats are liberals. Many of the people who vote Democrat that I know, share the same conservative values that I proudly trumpet. Unfortunately; there is a disconnect, they can’t see that when they support the Democratic party for the social issues they may believe to be virtuous, you become a de facto liberal because you cannot support the party of affirmative action without supporting the unGodly party of abortion on demand and Gay marriage.
Where your average liberal is often favorably disposed towards irrational beliefs and doctrines of devils, your average Democrat is simply too lazy or racist to look into the truth as they have made up their minds based on those aforementioned ideologies. Democrats however can on occasion be reached, yours truly would be an example of that particular truth. Democrats when confronted with the proof they are often to lazy to look into themselves, will on occasion admit that they were making a grave error when supporting a character like Barney Franks. They even sometimes, like me, become Ex-Democrats. A liberal never ever sees beyond the unicorns President Obama promised him he would have to ride around the autonomous collectives we will all live and work on.
For the liberals out there I’m joking about the President promising literal unicorns, I wish I could say that his actions thus far hadn’t made the autonomous collectives look so likely though.
As for racism, without it there would be no Democratic party. Racism drives the democratic party. You have the liberal Democrat, (White or Black) who is perhaps the most racist human being on earth who is so convinced of the inferiority of the minorities in America (even when he is one) he is compelled to help them by lowering standards so they can compete with their betters. This of course ends when it comes to rubber meeting the road programs like school vouchers where it would put their little Suzy in direct contact with a child from a family really seeking to improve that child’s lot by allowing them to contend on an even playing field, can’t have that.
Then you have the Original Democrats, these are folks that know the origin of the Democratic party. They know that it was the Democrats who started the Klu Klux Klan, with the express purpose of terrorizing black voters and to keep them from voting for the party that freed them. The O.D.s are the ones that still remember it was the Democrats during the civil rights movement that turned on the fire hoses and loosed the dogs on the civil rights activists in the 50s and 60s. It was the Democrats that raised the Confederate battle flag over all the municipal buildings in the south.
The O.D.s know that the party simply changed tactics when they lost the civil rights struggle, instead of beating and lynching people, they began to implement programs that stemmed the tide of independent minority progress both socially and economically, while appearing to be the party of the black man. Since we began to vote en masse for the democrats can we as the black community honestly say we are better off? With 70 percent of our children now being born out of wedlock and the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country? With our young men disproportionately represented in the nations jails and prisons and killing themselves in violent criminal activity in staggering numbers? This was not the case during my parents time nor was it the case when I was a kid in the 70’s when the liberal programs were just getting started, we are only now really seeing the bitter harvests that those programs are yielding.
Then you have the Black Democrat who if he is an elected official just may fall under the liberal umbrella depending on the level of indoctrination he fell victim to, I think our President falls under this category. The other elected official category is the Black Democrat who knows these programs are no good for the black community but he has sold himself out to the O.D.s for special favors. These are the real house negroes in the black community and they are represented in large numbers.
The Black Democrats are ofttimes virulently racist as well, so racist in fact that they do not think themselves capable of racism. I have heard such nonsensical rhetoric as, it is impossible for the black man to be racist because we don’t have the power to impose our racism institutionally.
Let that be a comfort to you white folks if your Beamer stalls out on the corner of Mack and Bewick in Detroit and you are not there buying drugs.
The Black Democrat votes for the party primarily because they believe the Republican party is the party of white folks. The Democratic party has worked tirelessly to foster that belief and the Republican party has done little to combat that perception, despite a rich history of being the true party of equality.
Democrats can sometimes be reached with facts, liberals are completely indifferent to them, unless of course in those rare occasions where those facts have the virtue of agreeing with their varying realities.
I wrote an article last election day entitled, “The Bush Economy and the Politics of Ignorance”, which illustrated the unfortunate propensity liberals and democrats have to ignore empiricism in favor of rhetoric, emotionalism and racism if you haven’t read it you may find it worthy of your attention, I do hope everyone who voted democrat in that election reads it, as well as an article I wrote called, “Rahm and Hegel Sittin’ in a Tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G.” which includes a timeline of President Bush’s statements in warning of the then coming financial crisis and his attempts to stave it off. These articles and the following C-Span video offer enough evidence of the culpability of the Democrats in the collapse of Fannie and Freddie which triggered this economic malaise that Obama’s policies are only deepening.
It is time to stop calling this financial crisis the Bush economy and place it at the feet of those who truly are responsible. Democratic voters wake up! Liberals, well, take another Percocet.
Behold, You desire truth in the inner being; make me therefore to know wisdom in my inmost heart. Psalm 51: 6 (Source) - emphasis added

Digital Publius I wanna be like you when I grow up! Seriously he broke this down to the bone grissle. If my beloved friends don't understand now after his ever so succinct dissertation then I'll just have to give them over to their democrat, liberal or both reprobate minds.

Here is the video he referenced:

47 comments:

Devon said...

My Dear Sister in Christ....when you make a stand for Truth, you will always offend people...even those closest to us!

You have decided to put Truth before your color, before your gender, before everything...and that is what a Christian does!

Be encouraged that you are doing the right thing in spite of the hurt you are getting from others!

Devon in Alberta

namaste said...

i recently reconnected with a friend from grade school thru facebook. he was SHOCKED to hear my political views. he calls me anti-black also. i told him there are other conservative black people in the world and we find each other thru blogging. he doesn't believe me, it sounds too far-fetched for him.

the narrow thinking among blacks would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

Harbinjer said...

I've had heated battles within my own family over messiah wannabe. Blacks became a leaderless regime after Malcolm and Martin were killed, now they feel this a reformation of sorts to be taken seriously, but its hard to believe in a group of people mired in the pathologies that exist in our community. I blew my brother law away this past 4th of July, he was regretting he voted for Obama, that's what he told me in private anyway. I was literally arguing with 12 adults who could not tell me why they voted for Obama. The kicker to all of this had to do with them voting against there so-called Christian values. None of them could explain that and that's when everyone pretty much wanted to talk about something else, I think they call it shaming the devil. Obama is not representative of the black community, he is an agnostic, probably leaning to the atheistic side. We as conservative God fearing American can see him for what he is, but unfortunately its going to take a lot more blunders and disasters to wake up most blacks, even then many will still believe in him, this is pathetic and sad on an immeasurable level.

Leslie Wilson said...

Girl you better PREACH! I looked up statistics after Presidential election and of the blacks that voted 95% voted for the President. 85% of all Americans professed to be Christian (I tend to believe that stat is slightly higher in the black community but let's say it's the same), then 85% of the 95% of blacks that voted for the President are Christian. I struggle with the reaction blacks had after the election (the tears, the we have finally overcome statements...) Really?!?! What about overcoming in the victory in Christ Jesus?!?! Yes my sister there is truly a disconnect in the black Christian community... My motto: I am a believer before I am black I vote accordlingly... If there is any conflict in the two Jesus wins!

JudyBright said...

Knowing and understanding the truth is often a lonely place. Actually speaking up for the truth is even lonelier.

All I can say is keep the faith. It must be hurtful and frustrating for close friends to question your allegiance to your own race simply because you have different political beliefs than the majority of black people.

Allison said...

I applaud you for standing up for what you believe in though it alienates you from friends.

You make some very intelligent and interesting points and I enjoy reading your blog!

I struggle very much with several of my close friends who are black and who are VERY strong, active Christians (pro-life, etc) - but who support Obama.

It is very frustrating :(

Constructive Feedback said...

Robin:

You have to understand their perspective.

They have latched their own racial development to a particular ideology and party. They now have a person in power WHO'S VERY PRESENCE is evidence of their own RACIAL PROGRESS.

So I ask you - how can you have a rational conversation where you attempt to hold THE PRESIDENT accountable just as people would do any other?

The answer is: YOU CAN'T!!

Robin - the only way to deal with them is to get clear on what their "Permanent Interests" are. From there you get them to make an honest accounting of where they presently stand. Finally you must get them to detail WHAT THEY MUST DO TO get back in alignment with these interests.

Here is where it gets interesting. They are more inclined to blame an EXTERNAL ENTITY than they are to put forth a management strategy to move forward. Linked with this is the need for a TRANSPARENT PROCESS for inspecting the efficacy of what they are doing.

All they see you doing is "attacking a Black man" or "Attacking the party that Black people are fused to". With their attachment YOU are not going to be able to directly address these points.

You can only get them to focus on some reference that you both can agree with, make note of how they have favorable people in control over all of the institutions that they have the power to choose the leadership for and then ask them if they are committed to their interests or to the vehicle that purports to lead them forward.

* Safe Streets
* Quality Education
* Thriving Local Economy
* Healthy Lifestyles

These are the key interests that all agree upon.

Annie said...

Robin, the closer you get to the truth, the more satan will attack you, so you must be doing something right! Also, everyone knows liberals do NOT have any sense of humor, its sad really. Their narrow-minded tunnel vision prevents them from seeing anything other than what they want to see. Keep up the good work girlfriend!

Nickie Goomba said...

Such blindness from the Left makes me want to bury my head in my hands.

Instead, I have to keep gathering energy and inspiration for the fight.

Your blog helps me do that.

Thank you

Just a conservative girl said...

this is a great post. I recently was called a racist for McCain. It totally blew me away. Like it or not, that is part of why he won. On Friday, Rush had a sit in on his show and people who voted for Obama that now regret it. Many of them said they wanted thier vote to be historic. It is scary to me that is how people vote. Didn't they listen to what he had to say? I respect you for standing up for what you believe. It is a refreshing change.

Anonymous said...

It's encouraging to read your responses. I too know how bewildering it can be to deal with Obama supporters. Actually, I think that if many of them could actually make a point for a certain policy it wouldn't be half as bad. But I hear people who are clueless about anything that is taking place politically.

I have a friend who says she's a christian yet supported Obama. She doesn't know what's going on politically and will only repeat the sentiments of those media outlets with anti-conservative, anti- christian views. The ability to think critically doesn't seem to exist with her. I think a big problem in general is that many people simply do not want to think. It's a laziness of mind, and it's a major character flaw. This friend, in general, does not want to think too deeply about anything. If I mention something she doesn't want to hear about, she cuts me off or changes the subject. She is an underachiever but doesn't have the willingness to engage in the process of life to make changes. She has a blame/jealousy mentality. This attitude is rampant and it is almost unbelievable. In the black community it's painful to hear people basically hating conservative radio hosts because they think that their opposition to the administration is racially motivated. They are unable or unwilling to engage in the issues, they seem to have only one thing on the brain and that's racism, trying to catch someone being racist. I don't know how a majority of black people got this way. It's a question for the ages.
Also, I think it's a time of purging for the church. Too many people claim to be christian and are not. Would not the Holy Spirit quicken many of these people to the truth? They've put race in the place of righteousness and truth.

ziggy said...

@ Allison,

I think we as christians have to stop judging other christians so lightly(and yes, it is ok to judge, God calls us to judge rightly). If your friends were "strong" christians they would have the discernment of the times, the character of the current president, and they would not have voted for him. If they could not see the seriousness of the election then they, like so many others, Christian or not, lacked historical perspective/knowledge and spiritual discernment.

chicagobluesgirl said...

I cannot respond to the racially motivated comments except to say that from my vantage point, they are wrong. I have incredible respect for your willingness to take a stand for Truth. To make any decision or take any stand based not on substance or values but on face or appearance belies the shallowness of the individual. Thank you for speaking out against what is wrong and FOR what is right.

Flavor Country said...

Although I am a democrat and a Black man who happened to vote for Obama, I have no problem with you standing up for what you believe in even though it puts you against the first Black president of the United States.

I do find it sad that people vote for someone solely based on race and not anything else. Whites did it for years, now that we have a voice in this world, we are falling into that same race game.

Although we may not agree as far a politics are concern, I agree we must stand up for what we believe........not the color of the skin.

researchbuff said...

I just wonder if more blacks had voted for McCain/Palin would they have been called out on their decision. As a black voter, no one has ever asked me why I supported white candidates, but suddenly any possible support towards a black candidate is racial? Really? You know I may be a black conservative, but I am not going to pretend as if the white man's kool aid has a better flavor than then black mans. With voices such as Rush Limbaugh, no wonder the Conservative movement is in trouble

odooley8939 said...

CBW - good post.

You might try debating with the US Constitution etc. Not that the Federal gov't has done more then pay lip service to that. However, the first thing a liberal will state if you mention federalism is "you're pro-slavery, Jim Crowe etc" There's lots of books out there (Men in Black by Levin is a good start) but if you can retort "Why do you support a Federal gov't that ignores the US Constitution which is how slavery, Jim Crowe, segregation etc (Prigg v Penslyvannia, Dred Scott, Plessy v Ferguson etc. )

Tends to make the liberal stop in their tracks and sometimes even think about it if you have all the various cases/quotes/cites vs what they were indoctrinated into believing.

After all if I remember right the Founding documents are not used when teaching US history / Constitution anymore - probably not an accident that.

RiPPa said...

You know what? That Obama joke you told was funny. Yes, I laughed at that one. I gotta admit, it was funnier than what Rush Limbaugh said about MJ thriving under Reagan and dying under an Obama presidency.

Here's food for thought:

why focus all of your energy, or the collective energy of like-minded ideologues on Obama? Why not spend more time focusing or how your party dropped the ball in the race last year? Why blame Obama supporters and continue to disparage them when obviously the guy you voted for ran a shitty campaign?

Thas' all I'm sayin'...

Conservative Black Woman said...

RiPPa~No denying that McCain ran a laughable campaign. The Republican party is a mess...but while I am a registered Republican...I'm a conservative and feel no party allegiance. I suppose I'm an ideologue too. But there is no reason to focus on the crappy McCain Campaign and truth be told had he been elected I would be PO'd with him too. He wasn't
"conservative" enough for me either.

I'll just rant as I feel led and let the chips falls whereever they fall. Sarah Palin said it best last week when she said "You don't have to explain to your friends and your enemies won't believe you anyway." So if my "peeps" think I'm a "Self-hating Negress" because of my politics and my disdain for this current very liberal democrat administration then I'm better off without them...dumb-azzes (lol, just kidding they aren't dumb)

RiPPa said...

LOL!

Right on...

now I can respect that. At the end of the day, that's really what it's all about: respect. I totally understand what you're saying. I think by now you know that though I lean to the left, I'm critical of them as well. To be honest, I don't think Obama is progressive enough as I would like.

In the end, there is no political utopia, and many of us just talk just to be talking I guess. In my opinion, I don't think it's about self-hate. I just think some Black conservatives/republicans are misguided. I watched the first video in a series you posted a while back and it reinforces that assessment in my book.

They were all bitching about being called Uncle Tom's, sellouts etc. and rightfully so. However, you cannot advance your cause with other Blacks and refer to them as still living on the plantation as they did in those videos. And that is in accepting that we're not a monolith.

Anonymous said...

Does it matter that he's the first black President of the USA as much as the first black President of the USA?

Blowing off world leaders to have dates with his wife on the taxpayer tab is is hardly presidential any more than steering money at ACORN, trying to be CEO of multiple car and financial companies, seize control of the health care industry, talk out both sides of his mouth on national security and anti-terrorism measures, bankrupt the energy industry and the American public that pays the bills at a time of economic crisis or any of the other things he's done.

If Obama keeps that up he will be regarded more as the first President of the USA who happened to be black. Maybe that is just the thing that should be.

uptownsteve said...

"Dag, Robin I can't understand why you are so anti black. Did you get dropped on your head when you was a baby."

Sounds like a reasonable question to me.

LMAO!!!

uptownsteve said...

"However, you cannot advance your cause with other Blacks and refer to them as still living on the plantation as they did in those videos."

Well that's because they are not trying to recruit or convince a preponderance of black folks.

Black conservatives are trying to distance themselves from the majority of the community they've learned to despise as much as they do their own reflections in the mirror.

They never try to sell black folks on their beliefs or philosophy.

They merely sneer that we're too stupid and addicted to handouts to accept how great conservatism is.

They live for white acceptance and approval.

And they wear the enmity of the black community as a badge of honor.

Truly sad.

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS you write:"Well that's because they are not trying to recruit or convince a preponderance of black folks."

How is it UTS that you have such a deep and abiding understanding of Black Conservative psyche? It's very curious how you invariably resort to the same old accusation...approval of white people. Seems to me that this is something which you deeply desire. Don't you receive enough "approval" from the white folks over at the daily kos or huffpo? Are the liberal democrat elitist hurting your wuttle feelings, UTS?

No my Dear Heart....I don't seek the approval of men (white or otherwise)...it's what the Lord Jesus Christ thinks of me that matters.

White people...please give UTS some love as he is clearly desirous of your affection although he will not hesitate to resort to ad hominem attacks and name calling for your attention in lieu of affection....it's too sad to LMBAO.

All jokes aside UTS, why is it so difficult for you to accept at face value to arguments put forth by the black conservatives like me?

uptownsteve said...

CBW,

"Seems to me that this (white approval) is something which you deeply desire."

Puh-leeze.

When I went after your buddies JMK and the old white frump (I forget her name) you almost broke out in tears.

This redirection doesn't work.

One thing I notice about you black conservative bloggers is how you are always reassuring your white visitors of how much you appreciate their patronage even if it's of the KKK variety.

"Why is it so difficult for you to accept at face value to arguments put forth by the black conservatives like me?"

Because all you do is regurgitate the same anti-black, jingoistic, Christian fundamentalist drivel that's fed to you by your white rightwing mentors.

I don't believe black folks are born hating themselves and their people.

There is a reason for your posturing and it ain't a philosophical awakening.

uptownsteve said...

CBW sez,

"How I feel that his policy will negatively impact this country and therefore Black folks will necessarily negatively impact Black folks since we are Americans too."

But CBW your credibility is highly questionable when you (and other righties) seem incapable of acknowledging the clusterf^ck that the conservatives heaped on America over the last 8 years.

It's exactly why the Dems one big over the last 2 national elections.

Yet you still say "Nuh Uh. Liberals are bad."

Then, AMAZINGLY, you gratuitously attack Obama who is only using the tools at his disposable to clean up the righty mess.

And you wonder WHY black folks question you?

Conservative Black Woman said...

Negro Pahleez....I appreciated all of the opinions expressed here even the dissenters. Surely, you know that since I have subjected myself and readers to the firey darts that you unabashedly hurl.

"ANTI-BLACK???!!!"....antiblack my black behind. If it's "anti-black" to believe that black people are capable of taking care of themselves and their families without the outstretched hand of the United States Gov't....then I'm the most "anti-black" woman alive. If it is "anti-black" to have confidence in the intellectual ability of black people and if it's "anti-black" to consider it shameful to ask white folks to give us a break on tests, and college admissions, and jobs then yep...I'll be "anti-black". Why, because being "pro-black" isn't getting us anywhere. Where is the "black pride" in saying "White people--give us a different test"? Where is the "black pride" in perpetual suspicion of who is or isn't a racist? If you are truly at peace with who you are as a person and completely confident in your ability to prosper, thrive, and provide for your family why in the name of God does it matter to you if Rush, Sean, Sally, Sue, Tom, Dick or Harry are racist?

Regarding the regurgiation of Christian Fundamentalist drivel...All I can tell you is the the "drivel" found between Genesis and Revelation is the same today, yesterday and forever so if one lives by those Truths then "regurgitation" is unavoidable. But I guess that "progressive drivel" found on liberal democrat media outlets that you "regurgitate" is acceptible, huh?

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS you write~"But CBW your credibility is highly questionable when you (and other righties) seem incapable of acknowledging the clusterf^ck that the conservatives heaped on America over the last 8 years."

And this is a beautiful illustration of "progressive liberal drivel". Watch the video my friend and get back to me after you witness the democrat "clusterf*cks" fight tooth in nail for the programs which you blame on conservatives.

uptownsteve said...

"If it's "anti-black" to believe that black people are capable of taking care of themselves and their families without the outstretched hand of the United States Gov't....then I'm the most "anti-black" woman alive."

This is the $hit I'm talking about!!

Are you suggesting that black folks DON'T take care of themselves and are exclusively wards of the government????

CBW, you do realize that welfare was created during the Great Depression for white folks who were suddenly jobless without forseeable employment prospects, don't you?

Or that the preponderance of welfare recipients, despite the rants of white bigots and demagogues have always been white.

Since "welfare as we knew it" was ended 10 years ago and the rolls slashed drastically since then, why are you still spreading the same tired lies about black folks?

uptownsteve said...

"If it is "anti-black" to have confidence in the intellectual ability of black people and if it's "anti-black" to consider it shameful to ask white folks to give us a break on tests, and college admissions, and jobs then yep...I'll be "anti-black". Why, because being "pro-black" isn't getting us anywhere."

Oh this garbage gets so frustrating.

CBW, affirmative action does not give anyone a break.

It only allows you in the door.

A door that has been traditionally closed to black folks.

What you do once inside is totally incumbent upon your abilities.

You do realize that your black conservative hero Clarence Thomas is an AA poster boy, don't you?

Attorneymom said...

Conservative, I have a post that will help you with your identity crisis. LOL. Check it out:

http://charactercorner.blogspot.com/2009/07/sidebar-throwback-video-min-louis.html

It is my current post. Call me when you are done reviewing.

Conservative Black Woman said...

AttorneyMom~Et tu Brute? No identity crisis what so ever on my part...I know WHO I am...I know WHOSE I am...and "Mr. Charlie" can keep his 40 acres and his mule! I'm intelligent, capable and enterprising enough to acquire my own, thank you very much.

Min. Farrakhan...my first thought was that he has not the Spirit of Christ but the Spirit of the Anti-Christ (that's biblical right?) but nevertheless I watched the 1st video. His premise in the first video was we have fought, struggled and died, we have shed our blood sweat and tears yet we have unequal housing, school, etc. He says that American does not really desire intergration. When we stop claiming the valor of our ancestors as our own and start fighting, struggling, and shedding our blood, sweat and tears to make sure our children live in safe neighborhoods, go to the better schools, demand that they excel in school and demand that our children cam properly communicate and think critically then and only then will we see the changes we seek. When we start parenting our children and not expecting the "church", "commmunity",or some benevolent "mentor" to do our job for us...then and only then will see realize the changes that "Min" Farrakhan is talking about.

Good Lord, are the souls of you Black Folks who have not "lost your identity" or "sold out" or who are otherwise "down with the struggle" soothed by being angry with America?

It's a pity, because the real threat facing Black Americans who are not extremely wealth is Cap and Trade, and health care reform...yet true to form these folks are so distracted chasing racism that they are unaware that their freedom is about to be taken away. Financial freedom because the new Cap & Trade legislation will necessarily cause energy costs to rise therefore I'll have less freedom to spend MY money the way I'd like. The "reformed" healthcare aka ObamaCare aka socialized medicine means that my current healthcare benefits could be taxed (as if I need more taxes) or my employer may decide to go with the Gov't plan and the very care that I receive could be rationed. Good grief. We need to start "bitchin" about the things that matter.

Everybody has a story of racism to tell. Even white folks (ask the New Haven fire fighters) So what? That will not change on this side of glory. We have laws to protect us from that sort of thing.

Getting all hyped with feeling of racial solidarity doesn't pay my daughters tuition, put clothes on her back, gas in her car, or food in her belly. Neither does it serve us well--when 60% of Black children are born into wedlock, seems to me that it's just a bunch of bullsh*t anyway. I mean what good does it do to be all about your "community" but not your "family". No Thank you, Attorneymom--I'll continue on with my "identity crisis". (I'll give you a call after I sit through the other 3 videos)

uptownsteve said...

CBW

It's the same old same old with you black conservatives.

Everything's gone to hell in a handbasket since the "libruls" got to us.

Only that's GARBAGE.

The biggest threat to black folks is health care reform and Cap & Trade?????

Are you on crack?

The biggest threat to black folks, like white folks, is lost of jobs and industry (along with their health care and homes) which has occured in spades after Bush and the Republicans deregulation of the banking and finance industry,

And guess who they came to for a bailout after screwing up royally?

That's right, The gubmint.

The only time you righties seem to see racism is when white folks cry "racism" as in the New England Firefighters case.

And in case you didn't notice, the white boys won. As a matter of fact has a white plaintiff ever lost a anti-AA case before the Supreme Court?

Hell no and that's because the righties have stacked the courts with hardline conservatives to perpetuate white supremacy.

And meanwhile discrimination against blacks in hiring and promotion continues daily (if you don't believe me, look at the backlog of EEOC cases and Fair Employment Council files) yet these cases never even make it past the Circuit Court level before being rejected.

Wake up my sister.

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS~You write:"The biggest threat to black folks, like white folks, is lost of jobs and industry (along with their health care and homes) which has occured in spades after Bush and the Republicans deregulation of the banking and finance industry,"

Bush and the Republicans deregulated the banking and finance industry? I see you still can't bring yourself to watch the video. Clearly you are unaware that both Bush and McCain tried in 2003 and 2005 respectively to institute more strident regulation only to be called racist by the Dems (watch the video). But that notwithstanding it is President Obama who has taken over GM and closed dealerships, it is Obama and the Democrat congress policies which are hindering small business...hell even big business who don't get in bed with them with that damnable Cap and Trade legislation. UTS, seriously take a look at what Cap and Trade will mean to you and your family. Try to put aside your disdain for me and my ideology and get the facts about Cap and Trade and HealthCare reform....just sayin'.

Regarding EEOC...isn't it a good thing that there is an EEOC and laws against discrimination. Perhaps if the racism chaser, and race baiters would shut up and sit their azzes down the poor people who really need justice will find it. But as long as people like "VAP from Winston Salem" are clogging the system with baseless claims of racism no wonder it takes so long.

Conservative Black Woman said...

BTW, UTS as you know I'm in the Washington DC area and many of my friends work for DC government, you wouldn't believe the stories they relate about the injustice they receive at the hands of superiors who look just like them!

uptownsteve said...

CBW

The Republicans OWN the deregulation that has led to the current crisis.

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act.

53 Republican Senators plus one Democrat - AYE

44 Democrats no Republicans - NAY

YEAs ---54
Abraham (R-MI)
Allard (R-CO)
Ashcroft (R-MO)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Chafee, J. (R-RI)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coverdell (R-GA)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeWine (R-OH)
Domenici (R-NM)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Gorton (R-WA)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grams (R-MN)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Jeffords (R-VT)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Mack (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nickles (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Roth (R-DE)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---44
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Breaux (D-LA)
Bryan (D-NV)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cleland (D-GA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerrey (D-NE)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Moynihan (D-NY)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Robb (D-VA)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

Present - 1
Fitzgerald (R-IL)

Not Voting - 1
Inhofe (R-OK)



The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act, Pub. L. No. 106-102, 113 Stat. 1338 (November 12, 1999), is an Act of the United States Congress which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, opening up competition among banks, securities companies and insurance companies. The Glass-Steagall Act prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services.

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA) allowed commercial and investment banks to consolidate. For example, Citibank merged with Travelers Group, an insurance company, and in 1998 formed the conglomerate Citigroup, a corporation combining banking and insurance underwriting services. Other major mergers in the financial sector had already taken place such as the Smith-Barney, Shearson, Primerica and Travelers Insurance Corporation combination in the mid-1990s. This combination, announced in 1993 and finalized in 1994, would have violated the Glass-Steagall Act and the Bank Holding Acts by combining insurance and securities companies, if not for a temporary waiver process <1>. The law was passed to legalize these mergers on a permanent basis. Historically, the combined industry has been known as the financial services industry.

uptownsteve said...

"UTS as you know I'm in the Washington DC area and many of my friends work for DC government, you wouldn't believe the stories they relate about the injustice they receive at the hands of superiors who look just like them!"

Wow, subordinates complaining about their managers.

Shocking.

Is it race related CBW?

You really don't see that you black conservatives attempt to turn any and every situation into an indictment of the character and ability of your own people!

It's mind-boggling.

uptownsteve said...

CBW,

Just to remind you.

I don't have any disdain for you personally.

I happen to like you and think that you're a nice person but extremely confused and misguided.

Conservative Black Woman said...

UTS you write"Wow, subordinates complaining about their managers.

Shocking.

Is it race related CBW?
"

Well, that's my point exactly. How many of those subordinates would blame the strain relations with managers "racism" if the said manager were white? I'll answer for you 99.99% of them. It seems we do it by default.

uptownsteve said...

CBW

You're being disingenuous AGAIN.

There is a big stretch between complaining about an overbearing, narcississtic manager as opposed to a manager or company with a track record of denying promotions or positions to perfectly qualified black folks because they don't think they'll be as good as the whites.

It happens all the time.

I've experienced it myself in my career.

Sticking your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't isn't helping.

uptownsteve said...

"Regarding EEOC...isn't it a good thing that there is an EEOC and laws against discrimination"

Oh geez..

Bush stacked the agency with ideologues who don't even believe in the agencies existance.

Thus the 5 year back log of cases..

But let some white boy claim he was passed over for "reverse discrimination" and his case gets fastracked to the Supreme Court and you black righties are grinnin' and cheesin' all the way.

Digital Publius said...

LOL CBW, you got more of a response on this article than I did on my own site. Thanks for posting it!

Laurie and Alan said...

Amen Devon, well said.
CBW, I can not imagine the double hatred you must be feeling right now...being a woman who happens to be a black conservative Christian.
I so admire you for telling it like it is! Keep it up!
I too had a good girlfriend who constantly talked down to me, called me names, quoted scripture at me, disrespected me and was very manipultive and she also happened to call herself a Christian. I ended up drawing the line w/her because she crossed so many boundries.
All that to say, I really respect you for all that you're doing and I that I thank you too.

Anonymous said...

@ CBW

I think the fact that alot of you "Conservatives of Color" miss the jist of what UTS is trying to say. #1 to many of you make it seem like any non conservative or non-gop black person is somehow depended on one/several gov't services to just get by and
#2 you want to try to paint us as so racist and biased you let sean hannity, limbaugh, m. savage dang near call us the "n" word and then co-sign for good measure (jessie lee patterson)

DJ Black Adam said...

Amazing, Uptown owned a few of you in this exchange, and I don't know what is more astonishing, how effortlessly he did it, or the fact that you all don't realize he did.

ziggy said...

Constructive Feedback here's one for you. When I read this, I thought of you. Are you familiar with Malcolm X's "Ballot or the Bullet" speech from '64? It's so fitting for today. Seems like too many black folks weren't listening to Malcolm huh? What an embarrassment! Look at this gem:

"...When you see this, you can see that the Negro vote is the key factor. And despite the fact that you are in a position to -- to be the determining factor, what do you get out of it? The Democrats have been in Washington D.C. only because of the Negro vote. They’ve been down there four years, and they're -- all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and gotten it out of the way, and now they bring up you. And now, they bring up you. You put them first, and they put you last, 'cause you’re a chump, a political chump.

In Washington D.C., in the House of Representatives, there are 257 who are Democrats; only 177 are Republican. In the Senate there are 67 Democrats; only 33 are Republicans. The Party that you backed controls two-thirds of the House of Representatives and the Senate, and still they can’t keep their promise to you, 'cause you’re a chump. Anytime you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that Party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you’re dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that Party, you’re not only a chump, but you’re a traitor to your race."

ar said...

The Truth is over here, too. If i may be so bold and post a link.
http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2009/07/23/milts-corner-oh-what-a-tangled-web-we-weave/#comment-135609

We have to realize who took over our country and how, why you do not matter to them. Careful what you ask for...

Thank you. God help us.

CLIP=ON-TIE said...

PLEASE RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!!! I'M DEAD SERIOUS!!! YOU ARE WONDERFUL.....AND YOUR MESSAGE IS HONEST AND EFFECTIVE......