Monday, January 19, 2009

What It Means If Obama's Presidency Is Successful

Joseph Farah wrote an article on Worldnetdaily this morning entitled "Pray Obama Fails" . While I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Farah's article, I was not brave enough to re-title this blog post thusly. His title was just too brazen (even for me). Although Barack Obama is brazen in his intention to sign the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) into law. FOCA creates a fundamental right to abortion by nullifying all state and federal laws that “interfere with” access to abortion before “viability” as determined by the abortion provider. FOCA would overturn partial- birth abortion bans, eliminate parental notification, and force taxpayers to fund abortion.
FOCA is extremely dangerous to those of us who uphold life. So I'm a bit sad that many Americans either don't know, don't care to know or don't care at all about the children who will be slaughtered in the years to come because "we have a black president" who will usher in abortion on demand. I'm sure you don't believe this so here's the video:

Mr. Farah writes:
"Many American Christians believe, as an article of faith, that we are to pray for the success of our leaders. It has become a sort of conventional wisdom among soft-minded believers. The biblical proof-text for this misguided way of thinking is Romans 13:1-4:
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

What could be more clear-cut? At face value, it would seem the Bible is telling us government is a God-ordained good and that we are not to resist its terrors. Many a coward has been bolstered in his conviction against challenging tyranny by not reading too deeply into the Scriptures. Yet, nowhere does the Bible ever suggest evil rulers are to be obeyed. When the rule of men conflicts with the commands of God, the Bible leaves no doubt about where we should stand.
That's why I do not hesitate today in calling on godly Americans to pray that Barack Hussein Obama fail in his efforts to change our country from one anchored on self-governance and constitutional republicanism to one based on the raw and unlimited power of the central state. It would be folly to pray for his success in such an evil campaign.

I want Obama to fail because his agenda is 100 percent at odds with God's. Pretending it is not simply makes a mockery of God's straightforward Commandments.

So you will not see me joining in the ritual of affirming Obama and his mission in public or private prayer this week – or any other week.

Instead, I uphold the words of Jesus in Matthew 15:14: "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."

And I take warning from Isaiah 9:16: "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed."

And please don't tell me about "rendering unto Caesar." It's important to consider the circumstances and the audience behind Jesus' instructions to "render unto Caesar." The Sadducees were attempting to trap Jesus into advocating open contempt for Caesar. He recognized their wicked and hypocritical little game and answered them with a totally truthful response that astonished everyone.

But think about it. There are two components to Jesus' words. We are to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's," but we are also to "render unto God the things that are God's." Well, everything ultimately belongs to God. But, most of all, this injunction by Jesus instructs us that government laws cannot trump God's laws – ever.

If government commands you to do evil, as a Christian you must resist. There is no alternative. Citing the "render unto Caesar" line is an apologetic for accountability to God – nothing more, nothing less.

Furthermore, it needs to be pointed out that in America we don't have a Caesar. Never have, never will. You see, our system of government is called a free republic, and it is based on the concept of constitutional self-government. We have no "rulers" in America – except ourselves and our God. We believe in the rule of law, not the rule of men.

This is an important distinction, not a semantic one.

Nowhere in the Bible does it teach us to obey evil rulers. Nowhere.

This is a time for principled biblical resistance, not phony Christian appeasement.

(Source) - emphasis added by CBW

So, I'm asking you would profess that Jesus Christ is not only our Saviour but your Lord and your King...Are you really praying that Obama's presidency will be successful and if so by whose terms are you defining success?


morena32001 said...

I agree wholeheartedly with the article. It brings to mind Daniel 3, especially verses 16-18.

I pray that Obama fails on this agenda and changes to an agenda that lines up with God of the Bible--if it is possible.

Pamela said...

I want to state for the record that I have nothing against Obama or anyone in our government. I am purely talking about policies that they have stated over and over again they would support. I could care less who the people are that are supporting them. BTW the only reason I voted for Pres. Bush in 2000 and 2004 was because of his stands on the moral issues. Many other issues I sincerely questioned and/or disagreed with. Until Pres. Bush clearly stated where he stood on them in 2000 I was ready to not vote in a presidential election the first time. I am not a lemming that follows someone just because they say they are Christian. EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE for the 2008 presidential campaign said they were Christians. I almost did not vote in this election either. I did vote but regret that I voted at all because I did not truthfully feel that either major candidate was a good choice. I repented to the Lord because I feel like I lied when I went to vote this time. I will never do that again.

The premise for my statements is where Jesus talked to people that bragged that they did good things for God and He said 'Depart from me I never knew you ye that work iniquity.' I have Matt 7:13-22 in mind as I make my comments below. From the reading of this blog the context is Christian.

I did not read the article but read about it on another blog.

Our allegiance as Christians is to Christ and His agenda. I and many in our prayer group at church are praying confusion to any of the enemy's plans for the US and for righteousness to prevail. That means any plans that Pres. Obama and our government that directly go against God's word we are boldly praying will fail. When Obama's plans or the plans of our government line up with God's word we pray those plans will be successful. I will not pray that the Freedom of Choice Act passes. I will not pray that the Employment Act (forget the original name) passes, the one that includes sexual orientation in discrimination law. Any legislation that legislates sin and/or possibly will put Christians in a position where we could be persecuted by our government I will boldly declare and pray that they go down in flames. I will not pray success for any policies that weaken or show contempt for our military like repealing the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.

People that are for these type of laws laugh at the idea that our own government would persecute us stating that we have a constitution and/or the bill of rights. Many of the same people supporting these type of laws also believe that the constitution should be interpreted with the times by using the courts to do this instead of going through the amendment process to make changes like they have done 27 times (I believe). These are just a start BUT I feel if a leader that says he is a Christian refuses to say what the Bible says about life along with stating that he will remove every restriction on abortion retroactively, agreeing with him on the issues of war or anything else is a waste of time. The unborn is the most vulnerable HUMAN that needs to be protected.

No one will ever be able to convince me that innocent people killed in war (HORRIBLE and DREADFUL) or any other issue is more important than slaughtering babies in the womb. The argument that 'well abortion and same-sex marriage did not change' will not fly either. Using this argument shows that people do not know the process of how our government works or chose to ignore the process. 52% of the voters voted in a man that has vowed that he will sign legislation to revoke every vote that restricts abortions. I assume that includes the few restrictions of Roe V Wade. We have NEVER made a statement like that where we will have rampant abortion in this nation. For the first time in our country we will legalize unrestricted abortion. Saying that you are doing good by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc. will not buy anything with God if our heart is not toward Him. We need God to help us in this nation. The legislation being proposed by Pres. Obama and many in our government is spitting in His eye. I am totally against this. So is God. All Christians have to do is read the Bible. It is pretty clear. If we are declaring wrong right, how can we expect anything to work right?

I think the idea that Christians are to bless, not curse, people with their words has been taken past the intentions of the Bible. There is NEVER a good word about sin and tolerating it. 1 Cor 5 tells of a situation where a man was sleeping with hopefully his stepmother. Paul told him to kick the man out of the church until he gets his life back in order. Paul did say to obey the authorities I think in 1 Timothy. However NOWHERE in the Bible do you see where it is ever okay to break God's laws. In fact one of the main reasons Paul was always in trouble and in prison was because he broke the laws of the land and preached the gospel of Christ. Most of his letters were written in prison.

With that said I am praying for a heart change for Pres. Obama and those in government that want to take the Christian religious influence out of this nation. Just because they have started this process does not mean they cannot change while in office. I will never pray for the success of satan's plans.

Attorneymom said...

CBW, I am sure you are really excited about tomorrow since your candidate will be sworn into office as the 44th President of the United States of America on tomorrow.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Attymom~Teh-hee, Teh-hee aren't you funny! LOL

Actually 2012 can't get here fast enough for me.

Attorneymom said...

Go to bed!!!

Anonymous said...

But will FOCA be his first priority after all? He does have a perfectly legitimate excuse for throwing 'them' under the bus if he wants to (you know, to seem centrist.) He COULD say that the present state of the nation makes other matters take precedence, etc., etc.

RightKlik said...

My fear is that Obama's presidency will be a "success" and the impact of his bad decisions won't be fully appreciated until long after he is gone (as with Bill Clinton).

Anonymous said...

Give it a rest, can't you be happy for the ancestors just one day? You can't legislate morals anyway.
More women would keep their babies if the economy isn't in the toilet. John McCain said he thought the economy was "fundamentally sound", what the hell was he smoking

Pamela said...

daffy-maiden, I was not even thinking about his tendencies of throwing people and groups under the bus. Anything is up for grabs at this point. When he really takes a long look at what he is facing he could very well change his mind on what he promised. After listening to his speech today I am convinced that is highly possible. It was a different tone than what many people were expecting.

shereedre said...

I wanted to write and say that I am a married white female who absolutely loves this blog and enjoys reading every comment...and Pamela you are one of my favorites is so refreshing to see someone who has such a deep and abiding faith in our Lord Jesus Christ...thank you CBW for your site....It is my all-time favorite blog for conservative truth.

Conservative Black Woman said...

Shereedre~Thank you! It's nice to be appreciated. You words of encouragement mean so much you have no idea how often I am admonished and chided by fellow christians. I agree with you about Pamela I am always blessed by her commentary.

Pamela said...

CBW and Sherdeedre, thanks so much for your kind words also.

I truly feel like mankind was created to function as described in the Bible. When we don't we suffer for it. It is not so much that God gets mad and strikes against us. The penalties for wrongdoing have already been defined when He spoke. Even if God wanted to change them He cannot and be one that never changes (Heb 13:8). TItus 1:2-3 says that when He speaks it comes to pass because he always manifests His word. My heart is to apply the same principles in every area of my life. I have not been perfect at this of course. However I try to be willing to use the knife on myself and hack away anything that does not line up.

My horror was seeing Christians completely ignore this during the election season when the word was presented to them. It grieved me so much that I did not blog much on political blogs or really discuss these issues too much. I was near tears during the last few months of this election season. I cannot describe how I felt, especially when I would hear stories of Christians completely ignoring God's word and His heart when it was presented to them. That is really bothersome to me. You expect this from people that do not know the Lord. I do not expect this from those that say they are Christians. I feel that is a reasonable expectation. Unfortunately that expectation was significantly lowered during this election season. That to me is a shame.

JudyBright said...


You said, I truly feel like mankind was created to function as described in the Bible. When we don't we suffer for it.

That is so true. Whenever we go against God's design in any way, there are negative consequences. It's just how God made the universe and there's no fighting it or changing it. That's why I don't believe in socialism, because essentially it takes away personal responsibility and consequences. And there are negative effects for that, many of which are not anticipated by people who don't understand the nature of the world that God made.

Anonymous said...

Hi Pamela :) I don't think any President would want to alienate half the country right off the bat, and today he sounded like a person who didn't want to alienate anyone!

Mom said...

As Christians we are instructed to pray for the king and all in authority. That does NOT say that we are to support their ERROR. We are to pray that God will lead them. The Word says the kings heart is in the hand of the Lord. We must pray for him to be led of the Lord.

Ayeshah said...

Hi CBW, I'm just discovering this blog tonight. I found the link on he's excellent! I was so thankful to read about NOT praying for Obama based on the scriptures you laid out. I've been struggling with praying for him overall and I finally understand how to communicate why. I've also been looking for a site just like this but didn't have the will to start one of my own...I'm glad to see yours!

Thank you!