tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post7683664653005664468..comments2024-02-24T05:11:34.559-05:00Comments on Conservative Black Woman: OBAMALISM....And The Real AnswerConservative Black Womanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04447535512847936593noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-76332957567054436532009-02-24T21:49:00.000-05:002009-02-24T21:49:00.000-05:00“Sigh“NYC Crime increases” (UTS)<<“Murders...<I>“Sigh</I><BR/><BR/><I>“NYC Crime increases”</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>“Murders jumped 24.7% to 111 from 89 during the first three months of 2007”</I> (Cranes 4/2008)<BR/><BR/>So it does...but what does that have to do with YOUR factual errors on this subject?<BR/><BR/>We were discussing Dinkins vs Giuliani...and YOU first claimed that, <I>“Dinkins...presided over twenty year lows in crime rates during his admninistration."</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>That is absolutely untrue.<BR/><BR/>The overall crime index remained fairly constant throughout his administration, dropping modestly overall, though even at the end of his administration it was higher than 1985’s, and very close to the very high levels of the mid-to-late 1970s (1975 – 1979), and the murder rate stayed between 2400 and 2600 per year throughout his tenure, the four HIGHEST years over the 20 year period between 1973 and 1993 and violent crime overall, while it dropped about 8% over his tenure, his last year (1993) had a violent crime index (195,352) that was higher than all but two of the previous 20 years!<BR/><BR/>Dinkins’ did not do a credible job reducing crime. In fact, it was a terrible four years for crime in NYC.<BR/><BR/>You then retreated a bit to claim, <I>“Dinkins lowered crime.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"He (Giuliani) himself has said it was MAYOR DINKINS' leadership that lowered crime, which is WHY Rudy hired DINKINS' guy, William Bratton to be ...”</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>Again, the crime stats don’t bear your first claim out.<BR/><BR/>The second claim is absurd, as “Dinkins’ guy” was Ray Kelly (the current NYPD Police Commissioner) NOT Bill Bratton, the man Rudy Giuliani tabbed back in 1994. Perhaps you were a might confused there. After all, 1994 was awhile back and all.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, it was Bill Bratton’s CompStat program that is credited with drastically reducing crime (especially violent crime) in NYC.<BR/><BR/>Finally you said, <I>“And if you check the nationwide crime statistics, you'll see that the decrease in NY is right in line with a decrease nationally in violent crime.”</I><BR/><BR/>Which AGAIN, is (not surprisingly, at this point) <B>NOT TRUE</B> as the uniform crime stats (UCS) bear my point out. The UCS backs up the claim that the Guiliani administration made in 2001, <B><I>FBI CRIME STATISTICS FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2000 SHOW DROP IN NEW YORK CITY CRIME RATE BUCKS NATIONAL TREND... Violent Crime Up Slightly Nationwide, Down 4.1% in New York City.</I></B><BR/><BR/>Crime in all categories in NYC declined through 2006!<BR/><BR/>So, the Giuliani administration's claim was about crime trends <B>during that administration,</B> where as noted, NYC’s decline both outpaced the rest of the nation’s AND even dropped 4.1% when the rest of the nation registered a slight uptick...<B>CONTRARY to what YOU had claimed!</B><BR/><BR/>And now you post an article about 2007’s crime rates?!<BR/><BR/>To show what?<BR/><BR/>It only returns attention to your earlier inaccuracies. Why do THAT?!<BR/><BR/>The Crane’s article makes sense in that I recently read an article that said the Bloomberg administration is "returning to the CompStat program initiated by Bill Bratton and has beat cops going after “quality of life” crimes."<BR/><BR/>Many here, were unaware they’d moved away from that, in which case that article seems to offer conclusive proof that it was Bratton’s introducing the CompStat program to NYC that dropped the crime rates so drastically. Again, contrary to what YOU had claimed.<BR/><BR/>I hate to bring up yet another error of yours, but you also said, <I>“I stand by my reading of the Crown Heights situation.</I><BR/><BR/><I>“Why did the cops recommend the cab driver to be treated and not the gravely injure children?”</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>Again, the Official report states: <I>"A volunteer ambulance from the Hatzolah ambulance corps arrived on the scene at about 8:23 pm followed shortly by police and a City ambulance which took Gavin Cato to Kings County Hospital, arriving at 8:32 p.m. Cato was pronounced dead shortly thereafter. Volunteers from a second Hatzolah ambulance helped Angela Cato, until a second City ambulance arrived and took her to the same hospital.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Two attending police officers, as well as a technician from the City ambulance, directed the Hatzolah driver to remove Lifsh from the scene for his safety, while Gavin Cato was being removed from beneath the station wagon.”</I><BR/><BR/>Why do you keep doing this to yourself?<BR/><BR/>You’re NOT helping yourself by piling error upon error.<BR/><BR/>I'm working on-sire over the next 48 hours (starting Wed AM)...I'm almost going to miss these madcap antics of yours.<BR/><BR/>You don't often have you facts straight, you don't seem to know the difference between DEBTS and DEFICITS, or between "the ECONOMY" and "an ECONOMIC CRISIS", but you're certainly shameless and relentless....<I>"Let the facts be damned"</I> should be your motto.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-43867436067509640222009-02-24T17:47:00.000-05:002009-02-24T17:47:00.000-05:00SighNYC Crime increaseshttp://www.crainsnewyork.co...Sigh<BR/><BR/>NYC Crime increases<BR/><BR/>http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080404/FREE/442011882/1057/newsletter01Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-90649903126126374722009-02-24T15:42:00.000-05:002009-02-24T15:42:00.000-05:00While I don't mean to belabor this point, what hap...While I don't mean to belabor this point, what happened to your assertion that crime went down nationwide, accounting for NYC's downturn in criminalisty?<BR/><BR/>Your own posted stats proved you wrong.<BR/><BR/><B>Violent Crime Up Slightly Nationwide, Down 4.1% in New York City</B><BR/><BR/>http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2001a/pr181-01.html<BR/><BR/>Notice the date of the article (2001)....indeed, crime nationwide went up "slightly" as that message claimed - (15,586 is "slightly" LARGER than 15,522), while NYC's continued to DECREASE.<BR/><BR/>In fact, crime went up nationwide in each of the subsequent years, rising from that 15,586 in 2001 to over 17,000 in 2006.<BR/><BR/>By 2005, NYC celebrated a crime rate that had been reduced to 1964 levels, for the first time since those halcyon days.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-51884733923472380812009-02-24T15:38:00.000-05:002009-02-24T15:38:00.000-05:00It was settled in COURT....before a judge....same ...It was settled in COURT....before a judge....same way the Cato suit was settled - in COURT.<BR/><BR/>There was no way the city of NY was going to win in that lawsuit.<BR/><BR/>A Brooklyn jury had just sentenced Rosenbaum's murderer (Lemrick Nelson) to 20 years....an accomplice Mr. Price had been convicted of "inciting to riot."<BR/><BR/>Dinkins had held Police back for 3 days....a disastrous move that, instead of making him look like a "peace-maker" made him appear an appeaser to the rioters at best and a co-conspirator, at worst.<BR/><BR/>The City settled the Rosenbaum case for a fraction of what any NY jury would've awarded and saved David Dinkins further public humiliation in the process.<BR/><BR/>I sympathize that this has been a tough week for you - confusing the National DEBT with the budget DEFICIT, posting a set of crime stats that show that crime nationwide, DID go up after 2000, while it went down in NYC, to arguing that block-busting and "white flight from areas when blacks move in (that ended in the early 1970s) still goes on....next I almost expect you to claim that Jews fled from Crown Heights in the wake of the riots. (just kidding...please don't suggest that, as it too, would be wrong) - but it's not my fault that you keep posting opinions as facts, and those opinions so consistently turn out to be wrong.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-23505963928988426002009-02-24T13:02:00.000-05:002009-02-24T13:02:00.000-05:00God you're pathetic.Show me anywhere in this p...God you're pathetic.<BR/><BR/>Show me anywhere in this piece where it states that this settlement went before a jury.<BR/><BR/>"http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A02E1D7163AF931A35757C0A96E958260&n=Top%2FReference%2FTimes%20Topics%2FPeople%2FR%2FRosenbaum%2C%20Yankel"<BR/><BR/>This was Giuliani's settlement all the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-21121615609160186192009-02-24T12:29:00.000-05:002009-02-24T12:29:00.000-05:00"New York City made a settlement with the Rosenbau...<I>"New York City made a settlement with the Rosenbaum family after prodding and demogoging by Giuliani."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>That was a JURY award and a sensible one....and I generally don't sympathize with Civil litigants in our overly litigious society.<BR/><BR/>In that case Mr. Rosenbaum's civil rights were egregiously abridged by a mob and the Mayor at that time (David Dinkins) held the police back for 3 days.<BR/><BR/>JURY award, not a "Giuliani award."<BR/><BR/>And you've ignored your a-hem "mis-statement" about the Cato family's civil judgment....AND the Grand Jury (comprised of 10 African Americans, 8 Caucasians, and 5 Latinos) finding "no cause" to indict the driver, Mr. Lifsh.<BR/><BR/>Apparently you've been misinformed on certain things.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>As to those crime rates, AGAIN, you seem to be misinformed.<BR/><BR/>There's nothing in the stats you posted that contradict;<BR/><BR/><B>FBI CRIME STATISTICS FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2000 SHOW DROP IN NEW YORK CITY CRIME RATE BUCKS NATIONAL TREND</B><BR/><BR/>New York City Ranks 163rd in Crime out of 215 American Cities<BR/><BR/><B>Violent Crime Up Slightly Nationwide, Down 4.1% in New York City</B><BR/><BR/>http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2001a/pr181-01.html<BR/><BR/>Notice the date of the article (2001)....indeed, crime nationwide went up "slightly" as that message claimed - (15,586 is "slightly" LARGER than 15,522), while NYC's continued to DECREASE.<BR/><BR/>In fact, crime went up nationwide in each of the subsequent years, rising from that 15,586 in 2001 to over 17,000 in 2006.<BR/><BR/>NYC's crime rate fell during that period as well and they're still using the Comp Stat program that Bratton brought in.<BR/><BR/>You know what's a good idea, NOT posting things that actually SUPPORT your opponent's claims.<BR/><BR/>Just a tip for future reference.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-36470933862455887842009-02-24T09:30:00.000-05:002009-02-24T09:30:00.000-05:00What did the racist say about embarassing someone....What did the racist say about embarassing someone.<BR/><BR/>Homicides in America 1989-2006<BR/><BR/>http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm<BR/><BR/>1989 21,500<BR/>1990 23,440<BR/>1991 24,700<BR/>1992 23,760<BR/>1993 24,530<BR/>1994 23,330<BR/>1995 21,610<BR/>1996 19,650<BR/>1997 18,208<BR/>1998 16,914<BR/>2000 15,522<BR/>2001 15,586<BR/>2002 16,037<BR/>2003 16,229<BR/>2004 16,528<BR/>2005 16,740<BR/>2006 17,030Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-73480499656103227232009-02-24T09:20:00.000-05:002009-02-24T09:20:00.000-05:00My God, you're not only a racist but a liar as...My God, you're not only a racist but a liar as well.<BR/><BR/>New York City made a settlement with the Rosenbaum family after prodding and demogoging by Giuliani.<BR/><BR/>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A02E1D7163AF931A35757C0A96E958260&n=Top%2FReference%2FTimes%20Topics%2FPeople%2FR%2FRosenbaum%2C%20YankelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-38293038979861332782009-02-23T23:05:00.000-05:002009-02-23T23:05:00.000-05:00CORRECTIONS:"A Grand Jury composed of 10 African A...CORRECTIONS:<BR/><BR/><I>"A Grand Jury composed of 10 African Americans, 8 Caucasians, and 5 Latinos found no cause to indict Lifsh <B>(the driver who hit Gavin and Angela Cato, killing Gavin).</B> Then District Attorney Charles J. Hynes explained that under New York law, the single act of "losing control of a car" is not criminal negligence even if death or injury resulted.</I><BR/><BR/>AND<BR/><BR/><I>"There are always a host of reasons why people move. Calvert County had been a predominantly black enclave <B>until about a half century ago.</B></I>JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-80521258018887383132009-02-23T23:01:00.000-05:002009-02-23T23:01:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-45885184025668123922009-02-23T21:02:00.000-05:002009-02-23T21:02:00.000-05:00"And those numbers have steadliy ticked back over ...<I>"And those numbers have steadliy ticked back over the last 6 years."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>I know, this is getting waaaay too predictable, but....WRONG AGAIN;<BR/><BR/><I><B>"Violent crime in New York City has decreased in the last twelve years and the murder rate in 2005 was at its lowest level since 1963. Crime rates spiked in the 1980s and early 1990s as the crack epidemic hit the city. During the 1990s the New York City Police Department (NYPD) adopted CompStat, broken windows policing and other strategies in a major effort to reduce crime. The city's dramatic drop in crime has been attributed by criminologists to these policing tactics, the end of the crack epidemic and demographic changes.</B></I><BR/><BR/>As an example, in 2005 one local editorial noted, <I>"After a banner year that saw the overall crime rate drop 6.7 percent and the murder rate plunge 17.2 percent in 2005..."</I> in decrying the NYPD's cutting it's OT budget.<BR/><BR/>Nope, so far, so good.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-4631760713115821202009-02-23T20:53:00.000-05:002009-02-23T20:53:00.000-05:00"Does the NYPD still have same exam policy?"NO."20...<I>"Does the NYPD still have same exam policy?</I><BR/><BR/><I>"NO.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"200 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"25 years of AA and white folks screamed "We so oppressed".</I><BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Well, it's been about 40 yrs (1971), but who's counting? Moreover, there's hundreds, thousands of such examples and the point is that such preferences cripple blacks, making them less able to compete after having been held to lower standards and expectations.<BR/><BR/>When I first got on the FDNY, I worked with a black Battalion Chief, named R Julius....GREAT guy and he opposed race-based preferences for the very same reasons that I do.<BR/><BR/>BC Julius never got a preference, he passed every exam he took, but he noticed that once racial preferences came into the Dept, black test scores went DOWN!<BR/><BR/>Worse still, for Chief Julius was the stigma of "perceived incompetence." He felt lumped in with all those guys "who failed the tests and still got promoted 'on the arm', so to speak."<BR/><BR/>People like me don't usually suffer from such preferences - I scored a 100% on the written part of the FDNY Entrance exam and 100% on the physical....I've always taken exams well.<BR/><BR/>I don't like the violation of equality of opportunity in the name of "equality" this "remedy" delivers. I don't like the idea of using discrimination to remedy past discrimination, as it only begets even more discrimination down the line. And I don't like the negative impact it's had on blacks.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"AA has been virtually dismantled in school admissions (outlawed in 2 of the largest states TX and CA) and civil service exams."</I><BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Michigan too....and good for them. That's good for ALL people black and white.<BR/><BR/>We engage in way too much "social engineering" in the name of proportionalism. Asians are 60% of the engineering classes in many major Universities because they've EARNED those spots.<BR/><BR/>Such disproportionate results harm no one. Giving other groups crutches that they don't need and that will cripple them further down the road, is NOT the way to address those discrepancies.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-65611273036062966602009-02-23T20:36:00.000-05:002009-02-23T20:36:00.000-05:00"And if you check the nationwide crime statistics,...<I>"And if you check the nationwide crime statistics, you'll see that the decrease in NY is right in line with a decrease nationally in violent crime."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>AND....once again, you'd be wrong.<BR/><BR/><I><B>FBI CRIME STATISTICS FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2000 SHOW DROP IN NEW YORK CITY CRIME RATE BUCKS NATIONAL TREND</B></I><BR/><BR/>New York City Ranks 163rd in Crime out of 215 American Cities<BR/><BR/><I><B>Violent Crime Up Slightly Nationwide, Down 4.1% in New York City</B></I><BR/><BR/><I>"Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani today congratulated...the men and women of the New York City Police Department, and community members for continuing to reduce crime in New York City while bucking the national trend.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"New crime statistics released today by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in its Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program show that the nationwide total index crime rate remained flat in 2000 compared to 1999, while New York City's crime rate dropped another 3.7% from 1999. New York City's drop in crime also exceeded the 2.4% crime reduction in the Northeast in 2000.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"New York City has once again succeeded in bringing crime down further despite skeptics who claimed New York's crime rate had bottomed out," the Mayor said. "This data provides more compelling evidence that New York City's innovative approach to crime reduction continues to yield dramatic gains, even as the national trend levels off. The men and women of the NYPD, and all of their partners in the community, deserve praise for leading the nation in the fight against crime."</I><BR/><BR/><I><B>"Among the 215 American cities with populations over 100,000, New York City ranks 163rd in total crime and ranks 23 out of the 25 largest cities in America."</B></I><BR/><BR/>http://www.nyc.gov/html/om/html/2001a/pr181-01.htmlJMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-1261325346007477382009-02-23T20:21:00.000-05:002009-02-23T20:21:00.000-05:00"Our office is in the middle of Prince Georges Cou...<I>"Our office is in the middle of Prince Georges County, the largest and most prosperous majority black jurisdiction in the country.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"The only place where the median household income rose when it changed from majority white to majority black.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"90% of the blacks that I work with live in Prince Georges County.<BR/>A couple live in Baltimore.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Not one white person I work with lives in the county.</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Once again, you claimed there was current "white flight" from Crofton, MD.....turns out that's not so.<BR/><BR/>SEE the stats I posted from that town's own demographic data.<BR/><BR/>Prince George's County is AGAIN, more proof of what I've been saying, today's middle class blacks have nothing to complain about....they WOULD <B>IF</B> they were living in anything like a "racist country."<BR/><BR/>As I correctly noted, "Block Busting" is a thing of the past.<BR/><BR/>Do people of ALL ethnic backgrounds make moves based on the quality of the schools in given areas?<BR/><BR/>Absolutely....and well they should. EVERYONE should have their children's futures as their highest priority.<BR/><BR/>Ironically enough, I found that one of the fastest growing areas in that region is Calvert County, MD and its population is the fastest-growing in Maryland.<BR/><BR/>Today, blacks make up 12 percent of the population -- down from 22 percent in 1980. The percentage of white residents has risen from 63 percent in 1970 to 77 percent in 1980, to almost 86 percent today.<BR/><BR/>There are always a host of reasons why people move. Calvery County had been a predominantly black enclave until a couple decades ago.<BR/><BR/>Things change, race and "racism" are rarely the reason.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-58382766699728506722009-02-23T20:12:00.000-05:002009-02-23T20:12:00.000-05:00"Why did Giuliani award the family of Yankel Rosen...<I>"Why did Giuliani award the family of Yankel Rosenbaum $1 million and absolutely NOTHING to the family of Gavin Cato, the dead toddler?"</I> UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Uhhhh, Giuliani didn't "award anyone" anything....a jury did nimrod. <I>"The family of an Australian Jewish student who died after being stabbed during a New York race riot 14 years ago has been awarded $US1.25 million ($A1.62 million) by a US court."</I> (http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Family-of-Aust-man-slain-in-riot-awarded-A162m/2005/06/19/1119119714174.html?from=moreStories), another jury awarded the Cato family $400,000.<BR/><BR/><I>"The city reached a $400,000 settlement with the family of the boy, Gavin Cato, in December 2001.</I> <BR/><BR/><I>"In 1998, the Giuliani administration also announced that the city would pay $1.1 million to more than 80 Hasidic families to settle a lawsuit that charged that the city government had violated their constitutional rights."</I> (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9406EFDC153BF93BA25755C0A9639C8B63)<BR/><BR/>Juries found that (1) those rioters violated Yankel Rosenbaum's and other Jews' Civil Rights and (2) that the Dinkins administration failed in its basic requirement to protect those Civil Rights.<BR/><BR/>In fact, <I><B>A Grand Jury composed of 10 African Americans, 8 Caucasians, and 5 Latinos found no cause to indict Lifsh (the driver who hit and killed Gavin and Angela Cato). Then District Attorney Charles J. Hynes explained that under New York law, the single act of "losing control of a car" is not criminal negligence even if death or injury resulted. Lifsh waived immunity and testified before the Grand Jury. About an hour after hearing Lifsh’s testimony, the grand jury voted not to indict Lifsh."</B></I><BR/><BR/>I have a question; when will UTS stop humiliating himself?<BR/><BR/>Uhhhhh, I guess when he finally stops posting things that are demonstrably untrue that give JMK the opening to drop actual facts and stats on those posts, proving them so wrong, so publically.<BR/><BR/>Help yourself out here UTS, stop posting maliciously, even racially-motivated erroneous stuff and I'll stop embarrassing you.<BR/><BR/>How's that?JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-33338125003577849552009-02-23T19:46:00.000-05:002009-02-23T19:46:00.000-05:00The numbers speak for themselves.The murder rate d...The numbers speak for themselves.<BR/><BR/>The murder rate during the entire Dinkins administration remained between 2400 and 2600 per year!<BR/><BR/>NYC lost thousands of jobs and businesses during that period and at one point, couldn't even pay its city workers.<BR/><BR/>That changed when Bratton took control of the NYPD and started off that administration's war on crime with this retort to the notorious "Squeegee men" (vagrants who hung out at highway off ramps around the city); <B>"I say, get off the booze, get off the drugs and get a job!"</B><BR/><BR/>It's Bratton's policies that brought down crime and Giuliani's business-friendly policies that brought back jobs and prosperity to New York City.<BR/><BR/>David Dinkins was as woefully incompetent as John V Lindsey was two decades earlier.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-4961530834497724512009-02-23T18:50:00.001-05:002009-02-23T18:50:00.001-05:00"1994 - 2,016 1995 - 1,550 1998 - 924"And if you c..."1994 - 2,016 <BR/>1995 - 1,550 <BR/>1998 - 924"<BR/><BR/>And if you check the nationwide crime statistics, you'll see that the decrease in NY is right in line with a decrease nationally in violent crime.<BR/><BR/>Washington, DC, under a black mayor and police chief experienced a similar decrease in violent crime.<BR/><BR/>In direct correlation with an unprecedented prosperous economy<BR/><BR/>But I don't see Anthony Williams being deified in the same way Giuliani is.<BR/><BR/>And those numbers have steadliy ticked back over the last 6 yearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-78571447663656444622009-02-23T18:50:00.000-05:002009-02-23T18:50:00.000-05:00"1994 - 2,016 1995 - 1,550 1998 - 924"And if you c..."1994 - 2,016 <BR/>1995 - 1,550 <BR/>1998 - 924"<BR/><BR/>And if you check the nationwide crime statistics, you'll see that the decrease in NY is right in line with a decrease nationally in violent crime.<BR/><BR/>Washington, DC, under a black mayor and police chief experienced a similar decrease in violent crime.<BR/><BR/>In direct correlation with an unprecedented prosperous economy<BR/><BR/>But I don't see Anthony Williams being deified in the same way Giuliani is.<BR/><BR/>And those numbers have steadliy ticked back over the last 6 yearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-64622617073454200932009-02-23T18:41:00.000-05:002009-02-23T18:41:00.000-05:00"Uhhhh, try the race-based preferences that have b..."Uhhhh, try the race-based preferences that have become "affirmative action."<BR/><BR/>In 1993, one NYPD Entrance Exam had three separate passing grades - 70 for whites and Asians, 65 for Hispanics and 60 for blacks."<BR/><BR/>1993 was 16 friggin years ago.<BR/><BR/>Does the NYPD still have same exam policy?<BR/><BR/>NO.<BR/><BR/>200 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow.<BR/><BR/>25 years of AA and white folks screamed "We so oppressed".<BR/><BR/>AA has been virtually dismantled in school admissions (outlawed in 2 of the largest states TX and CA) and civil service exams.<BR/><BR/>But people like you can't let go of the issue because it allows you to play victim.<BR/><BR/>AA was a very modest program which helped people who had traditionally been locked out get in.<BR/><BR/>It never affected more than 10% of the black workforce or college students.<BR/><BR/>And once you're in it's all up to your ability to perform.<BR/><BR/>AA never did anyones job for them, never passed a test and completed assignments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-71071105371114235412009-02-23T18:34:00.000-05:002009-02-23T18:34:00.000-05:00Sigh."The Dinkins administration had balanced four...Sigh.<BR/><BR/>"The Dinkins administration had balanced four budgets, to its credit, ... It was lowered by one point. It would be three or four years before Giuliani really got the budget under control. ... reducing crime and knew it would work, he wasn’t actually talking about his plan. ..."<BR/><BR/>The Dinkins administration had balanced four budgets, to its credit, ... It was lowered by one point. Symbolic, maybe. But still a tax cut. ... It would be three or four years before Giuliani really got the budget under control. ... reducing crime and knew it would work, he wasn’t actually talking about his plan. ...<BR/><BR/>http://nymag.com/anniversary/40th/50652/index3.html<BR/><BR/>Dinkins lowered crime.<BR/><BR/>"He himself has said it was MAYOR DINKINS' leadership that lowered crime, which is WHY Rudy hired DINKINS' guy, William Bratton to be ...<BR/><BR/>http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/11/rudy_the_crime_buster.html<BR/><BR/>I stand by my reading of the Crown Heights situation.<BR/><BR/>Why did the cops recommend the cab driver to be treated and not the gravely injure children?<BR/><BR/>Why did Giuliani award the family of Yankel Rosenbaum $1 million and absolutely NOTHING to the family of Gavin Cato, the dead toddler?<BR/><BR/>Care to answer that racist?<BR/><BR/>You're in total denial.<BR/><BR/>My workplace is a classic example of modern day segregation.<BR/><BR/>Our office is in the middle of Prince Georges County, the largest and most prosperous majority black jurisdiction in the country.<BR/><BR/>The only place where the median household income rose when it changed from majority white to majority black.<BR/><BR/>90% of the blacks that I work with live in Prince Georges County.<BR/>A couple live in Baltimore.<BR/><BR/>Not one white person I work with lives in the county.<BR/><BR/>They either live in neighborhood Anne Arundel (Crofton, Annapolis) or commute from friggin Virginia.<BR/><BR/>"Why is that problem so intractable?<BR/><BR/>I really don't know and, quite frankly, that's a problem that folks like you and CBW must ultimately confront."<BR/><BR/>Why just black folks?<BR/><BR/>Why don't you have to confront it as well?<BR/><BR/>Aren't we all Americans and have to share this country?<BR/><BR/>Are you actually saying that black folks have to make themselves acceptable to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-62446274318399839652009-02-23T18:25:00.000-05:002009-02-23T18:25:00.000-05:00CORRECTION: "As you can see, David Dinkins left of...CORRECTION: <I>"As you can see, David Dinkins left office with a <B>1%</B> uptick in murders, his last year in office.</I> Murders remained in the mid-2000s (2400 - 2600)/annually throughout his tenure.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-56886292616524480662009-02-23T17:50:00.000-05:002009-02-23T17:50:00.000-05:00To clarify those murder stats' In 1994, the Giulia...To clarify those murder stats' <BR/><BR/>In 1994, the Giuliani administration ciut that rate by over 400, to 2,016, lowering it even further, to 1,550 in 1995 and reduced to under 1,000 by 1998, when the annual murder rate for NYC dropped to 924.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-61800159744711739812009-02-23T17:45:00.000-05:002009-02-23T17:45:00.000-05:00"Dinkins balanced the budget and presided over twe...<I>"Dinkins balanced the budget and presided over twenty year lows in crime rates during his admninistration."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>That is, as is usual for you, completely and utterly <B>untrue</B>, and I'll prove it.<BR/><BR/>Actually, <I>"Dinkins became mayor with a $1.8 billion budget deficit when he entered office. He <B>attempted</B> to balance the budget and raised taxes. <B>High oil prices due to the Gulf War and an overall downturn in the economy did not help the economic health of the city. 300,000 private sector jobs were further lost during Dinkins's administration, eroding the city’s tax base.</B> His handling of the city's finances was criticized as being too beholden to unions and other lobbying groups. <B>Investment was at an all time low.</B></I><BR/><BR/><I>"His integrity came under fire, as well as his efficacy. In response to his failure to file (or pay) income taxes for five years earlier in his career, Salon magazine later reported, Dinkins said, <B>"I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law."</B></I> (Yikes! What a dope!)<BR/><BR/><I><B>"In 1991, New York was unable to pay city employees. The Dinkins administration proposed unprecedented cuts in public services, $1 billion in tax increases and the elimination of 27,000 jobs. He cut education by $579 million, marked 10 homeless shelters for closing</B> which was opposed by the city council.</I><BR/><BR/>The crime stats for his tenure are equally grim;<BR/><BR/>Murders in NYC stubbornly stayed above 2,000 during Dinkins star-crossed tenure:<BR/><BR/>1990 - 2605<BR/>1991 - 2571<BR/>1992 - 2397<BR/>1993 - 2420<BR/><BR/>As you can see, David Dinkins left office with a 5% uptick in murders, his last year in office.<BR/><BR/>1994 - 2,016 <BR/>1995 - 1,550 <BR/>1998 - 924<BR/><BR/><BR/>For overall violent crime;<BR/><BR/>David Dinkins presided over an 8% drop in overall violent crime;<BR/>1990 - 212,458 <BR/>1991 - 210,184 <BR/>1992 - 203,311 <BR/>1993 - 195,352 <BR/>A total drop of 17,000 violent crime, despite a record high murder rate.<BR/><BR/>Rudy Dropped violent crime by over 20,000 (175,433)...a 10% drop in his first year alone! They followed that up by dropping violent crime by another nearly 23,000 (13%) the following year.<BR/><BR/>The Guiliani administration nearly halved the Dinkins violent crime high by 1999 (107,147).<BR/><BR/>Dinkins was a woefully incompetent Mayor, and Guiliani came in and despite some personal flaws, improved NYC BOTH financially and public safety-wise.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad I was here to clear up the facts for you....AGAIN (debt & deficit ;-0)<BR/><BR/>Anyone can check out the Uniformed Crime Stats for themselves; http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"Keep in mind that a Jewish cab driver who exceeded the speed limit and ran a red light crashed into 2 black children and killed one."</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>So? That's grounds for a riot...and the subsequent pogrom against Jews there?<BR/><BR/>A Queens man was hit running across a Queens street last week and wound up hit and trapped under another vehicle (a van) that dragged the body for another 20 miles....no charges were filed against either driver.<BR/><BR/>WHY<BR/><BR/>Because it wasn't a crime.<BR/><BR/>And once again, your account of the Crown Heights riots differs from official reports; <I>"At approximately 8:20 p.m. on August 19, 1991, Yosef Lifsh, 22, was driving a station wagon with three passengers west on President Street, part of the three-car motorcade of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The procession was led by an unmarked police car with two officers, with its rooftop light flashing. Lifsh's vehicle fell behind. He continued through the intersection at President Street and Utica Avenue in an attempt to rejoin the group. Witnesses could not agree upon Lifsh’s speed and could not agree whether the light that Lifsh went through was yellow or red. Lifsh’s vehicle struck a car being driven on Utica Avenue, veered onto the sidewalk, knocked a 600-pound stone building pillar down, hit a wall, and killed a seven-year-old Guyanese boy named Gavin Cato. His seven year old cousin Angela Cato, survived but was badly injured.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Lifsh believed he had the right of way to proceed through the intersection because of the police escort. Lifsh said he deliberately steered his car away from adults on the sidewalk, toward the wall, a distance of about 25 yards (22.9 m), in order to stop the car. Lifsh later commented that the car did not come to a full stop upon impact with the building, but rather slid to the left along the wall until it reached the children.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Accounts differ as to the next sequence of events. After the collision, Lifsh said that the first thing he did was to try to lift the car in order to free the two children beneath it. The EMS unit that arrived on the scene about three minutes after the accident said that Lifsh was being beaten and pulled out of the station wagon by three or four black men. All accounts agree that Lifsh was beaten before ambulances and police arrived.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"A volunteer ambulance from the Hatzolah ambulance corps arrived on the scene at about 8:23 pm followed shortly by police and a City ambulance which took Gavin Cato to Kings County Hospital, arriving at 8:32 p.m. Cato was pronounced dead shortly thereafter. Volunteers from a second Hatzolah ambulance helped Angela Cato, until a second City ambulance arrived and took her to the same hospital.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Two attending police officers, as well as a technician from the City ambulance, directed the Hatzolah driver to remove Lifsh from the scene for his safety, while Gavin Cato was being removed from beneath the station wagon. According to the New York Times, more than 250 neighborhood residents, mostly black teenagers, many of whom were shouting "Jews! Jews! Jews!", jeered the driver of the car and then turned their anger on the police. Some members of the community were outraged because Lifsh was taken from the scene by a private ambulance service while city emergency workers were still trying to free the children who were pinned under the car."</I><BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"Could you PLEASE tell me what "special treatment" black people are receiving??"</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Uhhhh, try the race-based preferences that have become "affirmative action."<BR/><BR/>In 1993, one NYPD Entrance Exam had three separate passing grades - 70 for whites and Asians, 65 for Hispanics and 60 for blacks.<BR/><BR/>That's treating blacks like they are handicapped children. They aren't, except maybe, to those liberals who vote for the people who see them that way.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"You just resent black protest and the fact that if a black yells back at you, all you can do is get mad.'</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/><BR/>I've honestly never had a black person yell at me.<BR/><BR/>My wife doesn't need to yell, to make her points and outside, well, I'm a fairly persuasive fellow.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"for sale signs going up, once a few black families moved in," hasn't occurred since the early 1970s.</I> (JMK)<BR/><BR/><I>"That's BULL$HIT.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"It's going on right now in the next town over from me Crofton, MD."</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Forgive my skepticism, but given your obvious errors on the failure of the Dinkins administration, the difference between debts and deficits and the Crown Heights riots, I just had to look up the demographics on Crofton, MD.<BR/><BR/>AND...<BR/><BR/>Well, according to the census of 2000, <I>there were 20,091 people, 7,404 households, and 5,478 families residing in the Crofton ZIP code. The following data only includes census-listed figures for the Crofton ZIP code and excludes other data for Crofton-area residents.</I><BR/><BR/><I>The population density was 3,998.6 people per square mile (1,545.3/km²). There were 7,573 housing units at an average density of 1,507.2/sq mi (582.5/km²). <B>The racial makeup of the community was 90.21% White, 5.13% African American, 0.23% Native American, 2.33% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.60% from other races, and 1.44% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.48% of the population.</B></I><BR/><BR/><I>According to a 2007 estimate, the median income for a household in the area was $93,198, and the median income for a family was $101,644.</I><BR/><BR/>Doesn't look like much "white flight," and while the non-white population of Crofton and Prince Georges County may increase in coming years, that's NOT at all indicative of earlier "white flight."<BR/><BR/>In NYC back in the 1970s such white flight was motivated virtually entirely by two factors (1) the first and most vital was schools - for better, or worse, schools became "poor performing schools when a large influx of African-Americans attended," the same has not been as pronounced when, say, Asians attend those same schools and (2) home valuations falling in the wake of illegal "block busting" by realtors, many of whom rationalized their actions by claiming they were merely trying to "expand living options for blacks."<BR/><BR/>The latter (block busting" is an extinct phenomenon, while the former (declining schools) still is a factor for residents of ALL ethnic backgrounds choosing to buy or leave various areas.<BR/><BR/>Why is that problem so intractable?<BR/><BR/>I really don't know and, quite frankly, that's a problem that folks like you and CBW must ultimately confront.<BR/><BR/>You seem to resent that CBW looks at things more honestly and doesn't seek to excuse and rationalize poor performance and bad behavior.<BR/><BR/>People with attitudes like hers are how such problems will be solved. They're the folks who'll support the likes of Michelle Rhee's (in D.C.) real education reforms.<BR/><BR/>Black Conservatives seem to look for solutions, while folks like yourself tend to look for grievances.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-87929916676859207272009-02-23T13:39:00.000-05:002009-02-23T13:39:00.000-05:00"The idiocy you spoke of, "for sale signs going up..."The idiocy you spoke of, "for sale signs going up, once a few black families moved in," hasn't occurred since the early 1970s."<BR/><BR/>That's BULL$HIT.<BR/><BR/>It's going on right now in the next town over from me Crofton, MD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-35076361898256059432009-02-23T13:37:00.000-05:002009-02-23T13:37:00.000-05:00"She often claims she's glad she didn't grow up he..."She often claims she's glad she didn't grow up here, where a sense of inferiority and deep racial resentments are encouraged in schools."<BR/><BR/>You just regurgitate all the crap you hear on Fox TV, doncha?<BR/><BR/>I grew up in NYC and as many of my peers and friends had parents who were from the West Indies as those of us whose parents or grandparents came from the American South.<BR/><BR/>They were no more hard working, industrious and racially proud than our people were.<BR/><BR/>Oh BTW, you do know that most Crown Hts rioters were Caribbean blacks, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com