tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post5946965632993340647..comments2024-02-24T05:11:34.559-05:00Comments on Conservative Black Woman: Democracy Is The Road To Socialism - Who Knew? by JB WilliamsConservative Black Womanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04447535512847936593noreply@blogger.comBlogger163125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-50907349486874229382009-04-02T13:39:00.000-04:002009-04-02T13:39:00.000-04:00TYPO...SHOULD READ: "noticed....I just felt there...TYPO...SHOULD READ: <I>"noticed....I just felt there was NO need for response.</I>JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-15703411456917148572009-04-02T09:48:00.000-04:002009-04-02T09:48:00.000-04:00"Hi JMK."I was responding to this by our friend UT...<I>"Hi JMK.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"I was responding to this by our friend UTS :I wanna hear Judy or anyone else on this board defend your filth with a straight face."</I> (Judy Bright)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>My error.<BR/><BR/>I'd overlooked that....makes a lot of sense in context.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-38291907119056969942009-04-02T08:52:00.000-04:002009-04-02T08:52:00.000-04:00"I'm not defending either one of you"But you won't..."I'm not defending either one of you"<BR/><BR/>But you won't condemn his racism either and I find that sad.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, I'm through with the beer belly racist for now.<BR/><BR/>He's a liar and a charlatan and too much time spent responding to his filth is self-demeaning.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-64772197227758066422009-04-01T22:32:00.000-04:002009-04-01T22:32:00.000-04:00Hi JMK.I was responding to this by our friend UTS ...Hi JMK.<BR/><BR/>I was responding to this by our friend UTS :<I>I wanna hear Judy or anyone else on this board defend your filth with a straight face.<BR/><BR/>You can try to sweet talk Judy and flail for help all you like but I'm going to stay on your racist ass relentlessly.</I><BR/><BR/>So I was like, "I'm not defending anyone." And then you guys kept fighting.<BR/><BR/>Carry on.JudyBrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04319484965281283580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-36590871837940494142009-04-01T21:39:00.000-04:002009-04-01T21:39:00.000-04:00@JMK & UTSI'm not defending either one of ...<I>@JMK & UTS<BR/>I'm not defending either one of you. Too much testosterone in the room for me.</I> (Judy Bright)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Never said you defended anyone...what I rightly said was, <I>"The fighting is all on one side Judy.</I><BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>@UTS You asked if I'm black. Just search back a little in this thread. I left a clue nobody noticed. ;-)</I> (Judy Bright)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>I noticed....I just felt there was need for response.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-34580949897033312402009-04-01T18:04:00.000-04:002009-04-01T18:04:00.000-04:00@DJBA HAHAHAHAHA ROTFL!!!!!!!!!@JMK & UTSI'...@DJBA HAHAHAHAHA ROTFL!!!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>@JMK & UTS<BR/>I'm not defending either one of you. Too much testosterone in the room for me.<BR/><BR/>@UTS You asked if I'm black. Just search back a little in this thread. I left a clue nobody noticed. ;-)JudyBrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04319484965281283580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-68775753564990932822009-04-01T17:56:00.000-04:002009-04-01T17:56:00.000-04:00"Show me where Jeffries expressed abridging the ci...<I>"Show me where Jeffries expressed abridging the civil liberties of anyone pertaining to race."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>AGAIN, there's no black bigotry vile enough for you not to laud.<BR/><BR/>The ADL has rightly condemned Leonard Jeffries as "a vile racist."<BR/><BR/>They also noted, <I>"On September, 19, 1991, after more than a month of widespread media coverage of Jeffries' bigotry, the City University Faculty Senate voted to condemn the remarks. On October 27, City College's Board of Trustees voted 10-4 to give Jeffries a one-year extension as chairman of the Black Studies Department rather than the standard three years. On March 23, 1992, CUNY's Board of Trustees voted to remove Jeffries as head of the department, replacing him with Dr. Edmund W. Gordon, formerly chairman of the African-American Studies Department at Yale University."</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.adl.org/Sih/SIH-black_student_groups.asp<BR/><BR/>Here's just one major difference between our views, while I correctly asserted that <I><B>"...while Jared Taylor may well be a "racialist" or "racist", he is NOT a "white supremacist," as “white supremacists” DON’T espouse views like, “I think Asians are objectively superior to Whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society," thus his own words and actions bear that out,</B></I> while YOU laud and defend a man who is an admitted "racist" and an avowed "black supremacist."<BR/><BR/>But that's who YOU are, which is exactly what I've said you are.<BR/><BR/>Hell, even CARD (Citizens Against Racism and Discrimination) has condemned him; <I>"Jeffries has learned nothing since he was stripped of his departmental chair for his remarks. He continues to teach to this day, unbowed.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"In 1994, he compared Jews to “skunks - who stink up the place.”</I><BR/><BR/><I>"So much for diversity.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Jeffries suggested yesterday that white people conspired to ruin blacks’ health with inferior food - a ploy to keep them going to doctors.</I><BR/><BR/><I>“My basic rule of thumb is to stay away from things white,” Jeffries told the mostly African-American HPD staffers. “Take the whiteness out of your minds, or at least neutralize it with blackness.”</I><BR/><BR/><I>“Now corporate America wants you to die.”</I><BR/><BR/><I>"It was billed as a “unity” event, one that every agency in the city puts on and is organized by the workers themselves. But the HPD employees who crammed into an eighth-floor conference room - including some high-level administrators - instead got a venomous lesson in intolerance and division."</I><BR/><BR/>http://card.wordpress.com/2006/07/20/anti-white-hate-speech-from-racist-prof-at-unity-in-diversity-event/<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>As I said, Levin and Jeffries are EXACTLY the SAME and equally odious.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I><B>"What IS a very big problem is his view that "all inter-racial white-on-black crime is racially motivated, but most black-on-white crime isn't"</B></I> (JMK)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"Pathetic liar.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"That's not what I said.<BR/>I said most white on black violence is racially motivated whereas with a disproportionate number of black street criminals much black on white violence is about robbery."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Yup, that's EXACTLY what I claimed you said.<BR/><BR/>The FACT is that virtually ALL inter-racial crime is racially motivated....only a bigot wouldn't acknowledge that.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>Here's my e-mail address...</I><BR/><BR/><I>"...Anytime you'd like to meet face to face let me know.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"I'm in NYC every month.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"I bet I won't hear jack from your cowardly a$$.</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Oh NO!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Not the rage of the middle-aged office worker again!<BR/><BR/>Look, my email address is in my profile (<B>as if you didn't know</B>), but I've already told you what you are and that you wouldn't get much satisfaction from such a meeting.<BR/><BR/>That's a fact.<BR/><BR/>As you can see, I'm a really nice guy. I don't threaten or insult others...no matter what the provocation. I've even spent a lot of time here trying to get you to see the light that "ALL bigotry is equally wrong."<BR/><BR/>It's not my fault that you aren't capable of understanding and accepting that.<BR/><BR/>These veiled threats from you are just foolish. You're a middle-aged, suburbanite, office worker and full-time bigot. You're not about to come and "confront" the likes of me any time soon.<BR/><BR/>Primarily, it would be a waste of time....for you. I've corrected your every mis-statement right here, so I have no need nor desire to "yell" at you. I don't yell period.<BR/><BR/>I don't even yell in fires!<BR/><BR/>And to be honest, if a middle-aged, suburbanite office worker were to "yell" at me, I'd just have to laugh.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, don't make any more a fool of yourself than you already have.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-30947734921756184562009-04-01T17:04:00.000-04:002009-04-01T17:04:00.000-04:00"I get the impression that the comfortable, suburb..."I get the impression that the comfortable, suburbanite UTS, feels empowered by the anonymity online and feels free to project this in-your-face persona, that his real life doesn't allow."<BR/><BR/>Here's my e-mail address.<BR/><BR/>vaughnfair@aol.com<BR/><BR/>Anytime you'd like to meet face to face let me know.<BR/><BR/>I'm in NYC every month.<BR/><BR/>I bet I won't hear jack from your cowardly a$$.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-87147044481369167692009-04-01T16:42:00.000-04:002009-04-01T16:42:00.000-04:00JMK"All I've done here is to challenge some very o...JMK<BR/><BR/><BR/>"All I've done here is to challenge some very odious views put forth by one particular poster (UTS), who has been vile toward CF, CB and other posters, every time he's responded to them."<BR/><BR/>Every post from you is a pile of lies, distortions, misdirection, red herrings and false premises.<BR/><BR/>I wanna hear Judy or anyone else on this board defend your filth with a straight face.<BR/><BR/>You can try to sweet talk Judy and flail for help all you like but I'm going to stay on your racist ass relentlessly.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-30882278080524747842009-04-01T16:39:00.000-04:002009-04-01T16:39:00.000-04:00"They are BOTH "racial supremacists."Show me where..."They are BOTH "racial supremacists."<BR/><BR/>Show me where Jeffries expressed abridging the civil liberties of anyone pertaining to race.<BR/><BR/>I read a lot about his background.<BR/><BR/>The man was a member of a Jewish fraternity in college.<BR/><BR/>Being the racist fraud that you are, even when you're forced to acknowledge a white supremacist you reflexively have to create some black equivalent.<BR/><BR/>As far as the Christian/Channon murder rape were concerned the Tennessee media covered it, it was all over the rightwing internet and the criminals who committed the crimes are in jail doing big time.<BR/><BR/>Not so for the white murderers of young Tahliek Taliaferro who only got 11 years for "involuntary manslaughter."<BR/><BR/>You just don't get it do you racist?uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-79704226213328056012009-04-01T16:34:00.000-04:002009-04-01T16:34:00.000-04:00"I don't know what your religious beliefs are guys...<I>"I don't know what your religious beliefs are guys, I just don't understand the point of you fighting all the time."</I> (Judy Bright)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>The fighting is all on one side Judy.<BR/><BR/>All I've done here is to challenge some very odious views put forth by one particular poster (UTS), who has been vile toward CF, CB and other posters, every time he's responded to them.<BR/><BR/>I don't mind UTS' insults. I really don't think he can do any better.<BR/><BR/>If you note, I haven't ONCE responded with an insult....I don't have to.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I'm trying to help a misguided person understand some basic facts.<BR/><BR/>So, there's no "fight" from my end, merely my correcting some massive errors and mis-information from UTS.<BR/><BR/>I get the impression that the comfortable, suburbanite UTS, feels empowered by the anonymity online and feels free to project this in-your-face persona, that his real life doesn't allow.<BR/><BR/>THAT'S not a problem with me.<BR/><BR/>I've seen that act before.<BR/><BR/>What IS a very big problem is his view that <I>"all inter-racial bwhite-on-black crime is racially motivated, but most black-on-white crime isn't"</I> - the facts and circumstances don't back that up AND most people in law enforcement and criminal justice (prison psychologists, etc) don't support the bigoted view that UTS espouses.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-25063294956945557212009-04-01T16:20:00.000-04:002009-04-01T16:20:00.000-04:00"Certainly that's the case for whites who vicitmiz...<I>"Certainly that's the case for whites who vicitmize blacks..."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Actually merely holding THAT view makes you a stone-cold racial bigot...and what's more, your a comfortable, suburbanite bigot.<BR/><BR/>In other words, you have absolutely no personal justification for your own bigotries, NOT that there ever is any such justification!<BR/><BR/>Pathetic.<BR/><BR/>Michael Levin and Leonard Jeffries are EXACTLY the same.<BR/><BR/>I've had exchangesd with both of those guys, and I've schooled them even worse than I've schooled you.<BR/><BR/>They are BOTH "racial supremacists."<BR/><BR/>The fact that you don't have a problem with Leonard Jeffries' views, because those views aren't offensive to you personally, merely makes you a simpleton, as well as a bigot.<BR/><BR/>BOTH those guys are racial supremacists and BOTH (much like yourself) can't back up their own bigotry.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"BTW racist any explanation why this didn't make national headlines?"</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.truthout.org/033109K<BR/>(UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>I don't know, maybe for the SAME reason this far more heinous crime wasn't covered?<BR/><BR/>http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"Do you believe that race is a causative factor in violent crime?"</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>As I said, I believe race is the primary motivating factor in ALL inter-racial crimes and the prevailing data on that appears to be supported my view on that.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>In your own case, you claim to have been fired once for "confronting a white man who you claim harassed you."<BR/><BR/>While I'm skeptical of your side of the story, given your penchant for exaggeration and untruths, even accepting your tale, if that had happened where I work, I'd have probably had you locked up.<BR/><BR/>No one has a right to "confront" (verablly or physically) another employee.<BR/><BR/>If two co-workers have a problem, they bring it to their supervisor.<BR/><BR/>That's even true in a firehouse setting, which is far more "rough and tumble," so it is absolutely inviolate in an office setting.<BR/><BR/>If one didn't "like the other's views" - all employees can and should be barred from talking about politics, religion or race on the worksite.<BR/><BR/>Such disagreements DO NOT and CANNOT be allowed to make it impossible for workers to work together.<BR/><BR/>With me, you would work together without incident and you would not make getting the job we have to do, harder to get done....I could guarantee that.<BR/><BR/>But given your view that you "have a right to be <I>demanding and accusatory with others</I> over race" makes me believe you have a penchant for that kind of bigoted activity. And YES, <B>"acting demanding &/or accusatory toward your co-workers for ANY reason is both bigoted and threatening behavior,</B> and any kind of "threatening behavior" is grounds for suspension, termination or, in some instances, even criminal charges.<BR/><BR/>I certainly hope you learned from that unfortunate incident.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-68246974738269955282009-04-01T15:16:00.000-04:002009-04-01T15:16:00.000-04:00BTW coward,I noticed that you convienently avoided...BTW coward,<BR/><BR/>I noticed that you convienently avoided my questions which I will post again.<BR/><BR/>Do you believe that race is a causative factor in violent crime?<BR/><BR/>Do you believe an educated middle class black man is more likely to commit a violent crime than his white counterpart?<BR/><BR/>Are you unaware of the fact that when white ethnics were the inner poor a century ago, they were the disproporationate committers of violent crime?uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-69802671669700915142009-04-01T14:51:00.000-04:002009-04-01T14:51:00.000-04:00"Muggings are motivated by greed, viciousness and ...<I>"Muggings are motivated by greed, viciousness and convenience."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Over 90% of ALL violent crime are INTRA-racial (both vitim and predator share the same ethnic group)....in virtually all those cases where they differ, the predator/assailant sought out victims of a different and specific race.<BR/><BR/>It's OK, that you probably don't know that much about crime and criminal behavior, but that's an accepted fact.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-28254517474637595492009-04-01T13:29:00.000-04:002009-04-01T13:29:00.000-04:00Because he's a racist Judy.He slanders, stereotype...Because he's a racist Judy.<BR/><BR/>He slanders, stereotypes and vilifies my people, my family and my blood and I don't like that.<BR/><BR/>Are you black?<BR/><BR/>If you are, why aren't you offended by JMK?<BR/><BR/>Did you see how he tried to equate indentured servitude to black chattel slavery as a cheap attempt to minimize the racial horror blacks experienced for the first 200 years we were in America?<BR/><BR/>Did you see how he made excuses for vile white supremacists like Jared Taylor and Michael Levin???<BR/><BR/>Did you read his rants about blacks resenting success, hating lighter skinned people, won't speak proper English and pile of other baseless racist nonsense???uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-47626167347441568022009-04-01T13:16:00.000-04:002009-04-01T13:16:00.000-04:00will do everything to expose and humiliate them.Wh...<I>will do everything to expose and humiliate them.</I><BR/><BR/>Why? What will this accomplish? I guess I sound like a 3 year old. :-)JudyBrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04319484965281283580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-54979038089604002482009-04-01T12:52:00.000-04:002009-04-01T12:52:00.000-04:002 Timothy 2:23-24 says: Don't have anything to do ...2 Timothy 2:23-24 says: <I>Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't know what your religious beliefs are guys, I just don't understand the point of you fighting all the time. What are you trying to accomplish, and what makes you think you will succeed in this manner?JudyBrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04319484965281283580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-5739910054547892582009-04-01T12:26:00.000-04:002009-04-01T12:26:00.000-04:00"Virtually ALL inter-racial crime is racially moti..."Virtually ALL inter-racial crime is racially motivated."<BR/><BR/>That's bull$hit.<BR/><BR/>Muggings are motivated by greed, viciousness and convenience.<BR/><BR/>Once again you are making excuses for white racism and trying to exaggerate the rhetoric of blacks who make you made.<BR/><BR/>You don't fool anybody.<BR/><BR/>And I'm not "walking away" racist.<BR/><BR/>I'm gonna stay right in your ass and expose you for the vile, bigoted piece of garbage that you are.<BR/><BR/>So get ready.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-20286363926834962832009-04-01T12:22:00.000-04:002009-04-01T12:22:00.000-04:00"Sharpton-Metzger-Mohammad are all comparable, so ..."Sharpton-Metzger-Mohammad are all comparable, so are Hannity-Hughley-Limbaugh-Smiley-O'Reilly."<BR/><BR/>In what way?<BR/><BR/>I produced a list of racist remarks by Hannity Limbaugh and O'Reilly.<BR/><BR/>Where's your list on Smiley?<BR/><BR/>I submit you can compare Sharpton to Hannity, Limbaugh, et al but Sharpton doesn't have a corporate sponsored radio show, does he racist?<BR/><BR/>And Metzger has consistently called for a race war and race violence.<BR/><BR/>You really are a dumb racist ass aren't you?<BR/><BR/>An indentured servant is a form of debt bondage worker. The laborer is under contract of an employer for usually three to seven years, in exchange for their transportation, food, drink, clothing, lodging and other necessities. Unlike a slave, an indentured servant is required to work only for a limited term specified in a signed contract.<BR/><BR/><BR/>You're not trying to compare the indentured servitude of the Irish to the chattel slavery of blacks where families were separated, histories were stolen, people were auctioned, branded and breeded like cattle, are you?<BR/><BR/>Tell me you're not THAT dumb.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-44801078076559568842009-04-01T12:16:00.000-04:002009-04-01T12:16:00.000-04:00Virtually ALL inter-racial crime is racially motiv...Virtually ALL inter-racial crime is racially motivated.<BR/><BR/>That is largely accepted by almost all social scientists.<BR/><BR/>People generally strike out against other members of their own group UNLESS they are targeting someone of a different race and that reason is usually (virtually always) based on racial motives.<BR/><BR/>Limbaugh, Hughley, Smiley, Hannity, O'Reilly and other media hosts OFTEN say things that some people take offense to.<BR/><BR/>I take offense to ANYTHING that would suggest a "pro-black" agenda, just as I would to one that woul suggest a pro-white one.<BR/><BR/>The current status quo, although not "race neutral", due to some lingering race-based preferences of AA, is not, nor was not constructed on any kind of racial agenda.<BR/><BR/>So when racialist groups like Black Planet take offense to some things Limbaugh, Hannity and others may say, that must be discounted just as surely as David Dukes taking offense to anything that Hughley or Smiley says must also be discounted.<BR/><BR/>NONE of those mainstream talk hosts are either bigots or "hate inciters. NONE.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"I meant to say "Produce a racist statement by Tavis Smiley."</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Wait! YOU'RE the one who inferred that Tavis Smiley is "a racist"!<BR/><BR/>I SAID: <I>"Al Sharpton and fellow travellers like Tom Metzger and the late Khalid Mohammed (BOTH of the latter HAVE been proecuted for "incitement") do cross that line, <B>mainstream media hosts, like Limbaugh, Hughley, Hannity, Smiley and O'Reilly do not."</B></I> (JMK)<BR/><BR/>YOU then said, <I>"Now Smiley is a hatemonger?????"</I><BR/><BR/>Clearly, <B>I</B> made no such charge; <I>"While Al Sharpton, Tom Metzger, and the late Khalid Mohammed were/are all racists/bigots, Sean Hannity, D. L. Hughley, Rush Limbaugh, Tavis Smiley and Bill O'Reilly are NOT,"</I>....YOU did.<BR/><BR/>I correctly compared Smiley to Hannity, Limbaugh, Hughley and O'Reilly, NONE of whom are "hatemongers."<BR/><BR/>Please, walk away now, you're going to hurt yourselfJMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-80819433920459281222009-04-01T11:38:00.000-04:002009-04-01T11:38:00.000-04:00"do cross that line, mainstream media hosts, like ..."do cross that line, mainstream media hosts, like Limbaugh, Hughley, Hannity, Smiley and O'Reilly do not."<BR/><BR/>Shall I present a list of hateful remarks from Limbaugh Hannity and O'Reilly which rival anything Louis Farrakhan ever uttered?<BR/><BR/>http://newsone.blackplanet.com/elections/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/<BR/><BR/>http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080321233842AARaIIv<BR/><BR/>http://digg.com/odd_stuff/MP3_Bill_O_Reilly_Racist_Comments_transcript_in_first_commentuptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-45859452532026297262009-04-01T11:19:00.000-04:002009-04-01T11:19:00.000-04:00"there were white slaves"How many? 3Let's see som..."there were white slaves"<BR/><BR/>How many? 3<BR/><BR/>Let's see some documentation.<BR/><BR/>Unless you pulled this out of your ass like you do most of arguments.<BR/><BR/>"They were very definitely examples of bad law, but they were not backed by the federal government, nor did they extend to many states outside the South."<BR/><BR/>Prior to 1964 it was perfectly legal in all parts of the United States to discriminate against blacks in employment, housing, and education.<BR/><BR/>Not even you are stupid enough to suggest that blacks could buy homes wherever their money could take them during the 60s.<BR/><BR/>Heck there are many places that won't rent or sell to blacks TODAY.<BR/><BR/>"The Civil War was fought for a myriad of reasons, preserving the Union the primary focus, eradicating slavery was another."<BR/><BR/>BULL$HIT<BR/><BR/>Even Lincoln said that if he could preserve without freeing slaves he would.<BR/><BR/>http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm<BR/><BR/>"Al Sharpton and fellow travellers like Tom Metzger and the late Khalid Mohammed (BOTH of the latter HAVE been proecuted for "incitement") do cross that line, mainstream media hosts, like Limbaugh, Hughley, Hannity, Smiley and O'Reilly do not."<BR/><BR/>Now Smiley is a hatemonger?????<BR/><BR/>You really are a clown, aren't you?<BR/><BR/>Produce a racist by Tavis Smiley.<BR/><BR/>Take all the time you like.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand thanks for further proving my point that while Khalid Mohammad and Al Sharpton could never have corporate sponsored media perches, outright racists like O'Reilly, Hannity, Buchanan and Limbaugh DO.<BR/><BR/>Double Standard,<BR/><BR/>"The fact that I have no respect for you as a poster or as a person."<BR/><BR/>The feeling is definitely mutual racist.<BR/><BR/>Now you continue your pathetic claims of victory and I'll just keep putting my foot up your redneck ass for all to see.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-55742363175107734922009-04-01T11:10:00.000-04:002009-04-01T11:10:00.000-04:00"And your proof of this is what racist?" (UTS)&l...<I>"And your proof of this is what racist?"</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>The proof of those disporportionate violent crime rates can be found in the FBI's Uniform Crime Stats.<BR/><BR/>There's NOTHING at all "bigoted" about such facts. Facts are what they are and numbers are NEVER "racially/ethnically motivated".<BR/><BR/>See what I mean about your inability to defned your own innate racial bigotries???JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-70046223613223075912009-04-01T11:03:00.000-04:002009-04-01T11:03:00.000-04:00"Lots of groups were discriminated against prior t...<I>"Lots of groups were discriminated against prior to 1964."</I> (JMK)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"Yeah racist, but what other ones were slaves in America and which other group had a government sanctioned system in place designed specifically to KEEP them oppressed?"</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Read some history UTS, there were white slaves and there were free blacks way before the Civil War.<BR/><BR/>Jim Crow laws were state and local laws, instituted by many Southern states.<BR/><BR/>They were very definitely examples of bad law, but they were not backed by the federal government, nor did they extend to many states outside the South.<BR/><BR/>Ironically enough, one of America's most Liberal Democratic Presidents of the past century and one of the first internationalists, Woodrow Wilson, was also an ardent segregationist. In fact, Woodrow Wilson, introduced segregation in some Federal offices, despite much protest. <I>"He also appointed Southern politicians who were segregationists, because of his firm belief that racial segregation was in the best interest of Black Americans and White Americans alike."</I><BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"In my view...Sharpton's Action Network should've been held civilly liable for the wrongful deaths in that case and the damages done by his follower. In today's climate that would almost certainly be the case.""</I> (JMK)<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>"Okay then.</I><BR/><BR/><I>"Do you also believe that conservative talk show hosts should be held responsible for the bombings of the federal building in Oklahoma City and the 96 Atlanta Olympics?</I><BR/><BR/>"<I>If not, why not?"</I> (UTS)<BR/><<BR/>As I noted, <I>"much as I have severe reservations about holding a speaker responsible for the actions of another"</I> I DO support prosecution in those cases where <B>incitement</B> can be proven.<BR/><BR/>Al Sharpton and fellow travellers like Tom Metzger and the late Khalid Mohammed (BOTH of the latter HAVE been proecuted for "incitement") do cross that line, mainstream media hosts, like Limbaugh, Hughley, Hannity, Smiley and O'Reilly do not.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"the Civil War was not fought to free slaves but because the Union was attacked by Confederate terrorists who seceded from and declared war on their own country."</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>The Civil War was fought for a myriad of reasons, preserving the Union the primary focus, eradicating slavery was another.<BR/><BR/>In FACT, the primary reason the South seceded, was over the issue of slavery.<BR/><BR/>Please, if you foolishly believe that past injustices and debts carry forward (Common Law says they DO NOT), then you can't deny your own debt on the grounds that "well, there were other reasons for that sacrifice."<BR/><BR/>That's a pathetic argument even for you and you seem to specialize in those.<BR/><<BR/><<BR/><I>"If I ever encounter a bigot like you in real life, what I've given you on this board would seem like a day in the park."</I> (UTS)<BR/><BR/>You mean you'll constantly embarass yourself and look foolish?<BR/><BR/>From our first exchange over your not understanding the difference between the National Debt and a Budget Deficit, to your not knowing the realities of rural poverty in the U.S., to just about every other exchange we've had, you've been....well, to be honest about it, schooled.<BR/><BR/>In your every post you are overly emotional and prone to insult because you cannot make a decent argument in favor of what you claim to believe.<BR/><BR/>If you'll notice, I don't have to rely on insults, because I can make sound arguments.<BR/><BR/>The fact that I have no respect for you as a poster or as a person (in my view, your every word proves that you are a race-obsessed bigot) seems to anger you.<BR/><BR/>All I can say to that is get over it.<BR/><BR/>Tha fact is, you're having a hard time backing up your own bigotry. Maybe your trying too hard.<BR/><BR/>Bigotry like yours isn't worth backing up.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2081245598457508568.post-1125373425931771392009-04-01T10:33:00.000-04:002009-04-01T10:33:00.000-04:00"the disproportionate violent crime rates,” and he..."the disproportionate violent crime rates,” and he’s right about the crime rates and yes, probably right about his claim that 90% or more of black vs white crime being racially motivated."<BR/><BR/>And your proof of this is what racist?<BR/><BR/>Don't look now DJBA but he's pulling the hood off now and showing his real face.uptownstevenoreply@blogger.com